Under their leadership, since 2004, Republicans have lost the governorship, a Senate seat, two House seats, and both houses of the state legislature. Thanks to the inept Republican leadership, the Dems have even been able to position themselves as the party of fiscal responsibility.

If we can’t get the real conservatives back into power (fiscal conservatives/social moderates), our party will be in the political wilderness for years. I for one am real tired of these tea party CINOs who control the party (CINOs = conservatives in name only).

“Yes you folks love a moderate, but when did a moderate win? Did McCain win, did Snow help the Dems or Rep by voting to move the healthcare bill out of committee? Please tell me of the great wins by moderates, RINOs and other limpwristed Rep.”

Forgive my denseness on this point, but it would seem to me that if moderates didn’t win, there wouldn’t be disaffection in the base of the Republican party, since there would be no moderates in power.

Er, yes you can.

You get out the turncoats and those who give comfort to the opposition. You stand in opposition to failed party hacks that try to push the McCains the Spectors the Hegels the Snowes.

Really, who thought McCain was a good selection? Hmmm? Wasn’t he just pathetic?

The GOP has the possibility to gain right leaning independent votes by the score, yet focuses on left leaning independents who will always vote for Democrats anyway because their independent status is essentially a fraud. They are independents by personal conceit not independent ideologically.

You ignore the fact that we believe moderate Republicans do more long-term damage than left-wing Democrats. Yes ,you heard me (and may still not understand…) Moderate Republicans like McCain, Spector, the turncoat nominee in NY23, et al, do more damage to our cause than Democrats. So we will get rid of them all and be a minority until the GOP wises up and we have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Still, you think we are acting against our interests. But YOU are acting against your interests by alienating us. Perhaps you are just statists who have lost touch with the US Constitution and are simply trying to take a different route to power because the Dems have frozen you out for being insufficiently leftist.

People SEE what lefty Democrats like Obama are doing and they don’t like it, not one bit and therefore are prepared to act. You GOP moderates were unaware of the left-wing agenda of Obama and tut-tut ed when we claimed he was a radical. We are done with clueless and venal Republican pols who bash the GOP by trashing the conservative factions therein, allowing themselves to be used by the MSM. Allowing themselve to give cover to Democrats by voting for outrageous bills so the media can pretend there is bi-partisan support.

You are also engaging in projection when you claim conservative want “purity”. It is the moderates who bash conservatives on TV agreeing with the lefty hosts on premise after premise. In fact that is the ONLY reason Frum et al, get airtime from them. You guys are just trying to stay in the limelight and have no political convictions. You actually attack those of us who DO have convictions.

David Brooks summed the Tea Partiers up perfectly when he said: They would rather keep control of a party that loses, than lose control of a party that wins.

If we had a “pure GOP” that you described, we’d probably also have a much more conservative Democratic Party. Tempting.

Question for the group: does anyone have figures of how many GOP seats have been lost due to the Club for Growth’s involvement in elections ?