http://www.frumforum.com/eli-lake-gets-the-news Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 http://www.frumforum.com/eli-lake-gets-the-news/comment-page-1#comment-42086 ottovbvs Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:32:04 +0000 #comment-42086 Gadsden <br>wrote 20 minutes ago<br><br>....They don't have to reject it out of hand.....There's a midpoint between what you are suggesting would be a smart move and Netanyahu's opening bid......this is the middle east for godsake Gadsden wrote 20 minutes ago….They don’t have to reject it out of hand…..There’s a midpoint between what you are suggesting would be a smart move and Netanyahu’s opening bid……this is the middle east for godsake

]]> http://www.frumforum.com/eli-lake-gets-the-news/comment-page-1#comment-48339 Gadsden Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:08:45 +0000 #comment-48339 This is an interesting move. I suspect he is hoping that the Palestians will reject tis out of hand, on the grounds that a country is not really a state if it can't have an airforce or sign treaties. On the other hand, the smart move for the Palestians would be to accept those terms, knowing full well that they will be viewed as unacceptable and unenforecable 10 years down the road. This is an interesting move. I suspect he is hoping that the Palestians will reject tis out of hand, on the grounds that a country is not really a state if it can’t have an airforce or sign treaties. On the other hand, the smart move for the Palestians would be to accept those terms, knowing full well that they will be viewed as unacceptable and unenforecable 10 years down the road.

]]> http://www.frumforum.com/eli-lake-gets-the-news/comment-page-1#comment-53487 ottovbvs Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:21:49 +0000 #comment-53487 He had to move on this just as he is going to have to move on the settlements. The world including the pro Israel world are not going to the stake to defend the indefinite reduction of the Palestinians or to defend the interests of about 250,000 Israelis who live in the settlements. I'm actually mildly optimistic about Netanyahu who is a total opportunist or pragmatist if you prefer. Settlements of longstanding issues are usually led by the ultras think Churchill/Michael Collins, or the Begin/Egypt peace agreement. Netanyahu is between a rock and hard place. He's no fool and realizes Israel basically needs a peace settlement more than the arabs because the strategic balance has swung against Israel. Given that, the vigorous involvement of the US for the first time for 10 years and the stars could be in alignment. He had to move on this just as he is going to have to move on the settlements. The world including the pro Israel world are not going to the stake to defend the indefinite reduction of the Palestinians or to defend the interests of about 250,000 Israelis who live in the settlements. I’m actually mildly optimistic about Netanyahu who is a total opportunist or pragmatist if you prefer. Settlements of longstanding issues are usually led by the ultras think Churchill/Michael Collins, or the Begin/Egypt peace agreement. Netanyahu is between a rock and hard place. He’s no fool and realizes Israel basically needs a peace settlement more than the arabs because the strategic balance has swung against Israel. Given that, the vigorous involvement of the US for the first time for 10 years and the stars could be in alignment.

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