Comments on: Economic Policy in the Rear-View Mirror – Grading the Bush Terms http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: mrrightwing http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-43973 mrrightwing Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:14:34 +0000 #comment-43973 I am a freedom-fry eating American. I bought all of the rhetoric about keeping government out of health care... and for the most part I still do. But when I started dating a gal who lived in France for 9 years and who was very, very happy with the health care she received, I started to look into it. Did you know that in France they openly ridicule the English "socialized medicine." But at the same time, they have universal coverage? read the rest: http://mrrightwing.blogtownhall.com/2009/01/08/real_reform_begins_in_france.thtml I am a freedom-fry eating American. I bought all of the rhetoric about keeping government out of health care… and for the most part I still do. But when I started dating a gal who lived in France for 9 years and who was very, very happy with the health care she received, I started to look into it.

Did you know that in France they openly ridicule the English “socialized medicine.” But at the same time, they have universal coverage?

read the rest: http://mrrightwing.blogtownhall.com/2009/01/08/real_reform_begins_in_france.thtml

]]> By: fact based http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-49572 fact based Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:57:46 +0000 #comment-49572 Kjohn : Ronald Reagan was the king of fiscal irresponsibility as even his budget director Stockman acknowledged later. Bush 1 had the honesty to call it what it was "voodoo economics", he tried to remedy the situation and got hammered for it. And btw in case your memory fails you, the budget was balanced under Clinton. Kjohn :

Ronald Reagan was the king of fiscal irresponsibility as even his budget director Stockman acknowledged later. Bush 1 had the honesty to call it what it was “voodoo economics”, he tried to remedy the situation and got hammered for it. And btw in case your memory fails you, the budget was balanced under Clinton.

]]> By: Kjohn http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-47417 Kjohn Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:23:00 +0000 #comment-47417 I have been a republican for almost 30 years. Beginning with Bush 1 there has been little or no fiscal responsibility. Democrats tax and spend, republicans borrow and spend. There is but one solution to health care; limit access like the canadians do and claim victory. I have been a republican for almost 30 years. Beginning with Bush 1 there has been little or no fiscal responsibility. Democrats tax and spend, republicans borrow and spend. There is but one solution to health care; limit access like the canadians do and claim victory.

]]> By: fact based http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-38550 fact based Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:58:22 +0000 #comment-38550 Higher quality health care, at lower cost, for every American should be a central plank of Republicans. It is within the grasp of reformed markets to deliver This is a platitude that you guys repeat with no connection to reality. Health is allocated randomly if healthcare is allocated by price those unfortunate enought to be poor and unhealthy will not get access to healthcare. If John McCain (melanoma) or Rudy Giuliani (prostate cancer) were middle class people without access to group health insurance what do you think would be the market price of their health insurance (if they could get any at all) ? Insurance companies are in the business to limit the amount of claims they pay out not to provide healthcare. healthcare is a classic case of market failure: there simply is no rational profit making insurance company that will provide insurance to a person with a high risk medical history and there is no moral reason why a poor person should have their access to basic healthcare be limited by their financial means. Higher quality health care, at lower cost, for every American should be a central plank of Republicans. It is within the grasp of reformed markets to deliver

This is a platitude that you guys repeat with no connection to reality. Health is allocated randomly if healthcare is allocated by price those unfortunate enought to be poor and unhealthy will not get access to healthcare.

If John McCain (melanoma) or Rudy Giuliani (prostate cancer) were middle class people without access to group health insurance what do you think would be the market price of their health insurance (if they could get any at all) ?

Insurance companies are in the business to limit the amount of claims they pay out not to provide healthcare.

healthcare is a classic case of market failure: there simply is no rational profit making insurance company that will provide insurance to a person with a high risk medical history and there is no moral reason why a poor person should have their access to basic healthcare be limited by their financial means.

]]> By: DougD http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-49270 DougD Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:07:58 +0000 #comment-49270 Excellent piece, particularly with respect to code reform. The Bush administration squandered the generational chance to simplify and reform our mad, sclerotic tax code. It won't happen now. This was an opportunity that could have received small but significant bi-partisan support had it been pursued as a revenue-neutral matter separate from previous and subsequent tax cuts. Excellent piece, particularly with respect to code reform. The Bush administration squandered the generational chance to simplify and reform our mad, sclerotic tax code. It won’t happen now. This was an opportunity that could have received small but significant bi-partisan support had it been pursued as a revenue-neutral matter separate from previous and subsequent tax cuts.

]]> By: Neo http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-47010 Neo Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:56:01 +0000 #comment-47010 Tax policy .. the coming attempts at a "carbon tax" of sorts to fund the only piece of legislation for which Obama was a chief sponsor (but left on the Senate floor without a final vote) was the Global Poverty Act which was to put a percentage of GDP in the UN coffers. Republicans need a "green" strategy that does real environmental good without the AGW stuff (that Nature is currently ripping apart each and every cold day) and without a "global tax". Tax policy .. the coming attempts at a “carbon tax” of sorts to fund the only piece of legislation for which Obama was a chief sponsor (but left on the Senate floor without a final vote) was the Global Poverty Act which was to put a percentage of GDP in the UN coffers.

Republicans need a “green” strategy that does real environmental good without the AGW stuff (that Nature is currently ripping apart each and every cold day) and without a “global tax”.

]]> By: Clarence Darrow http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-39508 Clarence Darrow Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:49:06 +0000 #comment-39508 Even more sad it couldn't be said about him in 2000. Great article - spot on. Even more sad it couldn’t be said about him in 2000.

Great article – spot on.

]]> By: Okhuysen http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-45436 Okhuysen Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:48:55 +0000 #comment-45436 The loss of bi-partinsanship, alas, was the worst miss. Unfortunately this has led the Congress on two separate paths that apparently don't meet. This is unfortunate because we americans, meet every day in all sort of constructive endeavors. Sadly, our government is not representing us well. The healthcare solution will have to be one resulting from an unprecedented level of bi-partisanship. I don't believe we will get Healthcare moderated by the markets. What we are fixing is a Healthcare system in which, for too many americans, the care of last resort is the ER. Our expectation should be that we get the best healthcare solution we can get, which may not be the best possible. The loss of bi-partinsanship, alas, was the worst miss. Unfortunately this has led the Congress on two separate paths that apparently don’t meet. This is unfortunate because we americans, meet every day in all sort of constructive endeavors. Sadly, our government is not representing us well.

The healthcare solution will have to be one resulting from an unprecedented level of bi-partisanship. I don’t believe we will get Healthcare moderated by the markets. What we are fixing is a Healthcare system in which, for too many americans, the care of last resort is the ER. Our expectation should be that we get the best healthcare solution we can get, which may not be the best possible.

]]> By: bartlettb http://www.frumforum.com/economic-policy-in-the-rear-view-mirror-grading-the-bush-terms/comment-page-1#comment-46572 bartlettb Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:38:43 +0000 #comment-46572 Too bad that much the same could be said about John McCain in 2008. Too bad that much the same could be said about John McCain in 2008.

]]>