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		<title>By: Cforchange</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/dont-despair-yet-mr-bartlett/comment-page-1#comment-62576</link>
		<dc:creator>Cforchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CT Whitman&#039;s absence from the top ticket has been a huge GOP mistake. Hilliary would have had zero traction with this competitor.   But then again Whitman is so brilliant she probably knows all to well that competance and smarts don&#039;t get you anywhere in the GOP these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CT Whitman&#8217;s absence from the top ticket has been a huge GOP mistake. Hilliary would have had zero traction with this competitor.   But then again Whitman is so brilliant she probably knows all to well that competance and smarts don&#8217;t get you anywhere in the GOP these days.</p>
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		<title>By: rbottoms</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/dont-despair-yet-mr-bartlett/comment-page-1#comment-62456</link>
		<dc:creator>rbottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 21:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
BOISE, Idaho — Idaho Republican Rex Rammell said Tuesday the hoopla over his remarks about hunting President Barack Obama has been a boon to his campaign, and he again refused to apologize for what he called a joke.

Rammell, a veterinarian and former elk rancher, has said he also blames Democrats and the media for overblowing his comment.

While a defiant Rammell refused to apologize, he said he was sorry if his remark was taken the wrong way.

&quot;If people think I want to assassinate President Obama, I&#039;ll apologize for that all day long. That is not my intention,&quot; Rammell said. &quot;But I will not apologize for making an innocent comment.&quot;

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Rammell isn&#039;t the first Rexburg resident who has drawn attention for making an anti-Obama comment. In November 2008, second- and third-grade students on a school bus there chanted &quot;Assassinate Obama&quot; after his election, prompting the mayor of the eastern Idaho town to publicly apologize.&lt;/a&gt;

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The GOP race towards oblivion continues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BOISE, Idaho — Idaho Republican Rex Rammell said Tuesday the hoopla over his remarks about hunting President Barack Obama has been a boon to his campaign, and he again refused to apologize for what he called a joke.</p>
<p>Rammell, a veterinarian and former elk rancher, has said he also blames Democrats and the media for overblowing his comment.</p>
<p>While a defiant Rammell refused to apologize, he said he was sorry if his remark was taken the wrong way.</p>
<p>&#8220;If people think I want to assassinate President Obama, I&#8217;ll apologize for that all day long. That is not my intention,&#8221; Rammell said. &#8220;But I will not apologize for making an innocent comment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rammell isn&#8217;t the first Rexburg resident who has drawn attention for making an anti-Obama comment. In November 2008, second- and third-grade students on a school bus there chanted &#8220;Assassinate Obama&#8221; after his election, prompting the mayor of the eastern Idaho town to publicly apologize.</p>
<p>The GOP race towards oblivion continues.</p>
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		<title>By: VCF</title>
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		<dc:creator>VCF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d despair.  The GOP has reduced itself to middle-aged Christian white folks party in the Confederacy and Mormon corridor.  When the GOP loses to a black man in Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana, that should tell you just how horrible the GOP brand is right now.  Considering that Bush passed NCLB and Medicare Part D and the Patriot Act and warrantless wiretapping, you should not be surprised that moderates and independents have no idea what conservatism means anymore.
Keep going for ideological purity and soon you&#039;ll be permanently at 35-40 Senators and an 80 seat deficit in the House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d despair.  The GOP has reduced itself to middle-aged Christian white folks party in the Confederacy and Mormon corridor.  When the GOP loses to a black man in Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana, that should tell you just how horrible the GOP brand is right now.  Considering that Bush passed NCLB and Medicare Part D and the Patriot Act and warrantless wiretapping, you should not be surprised that moderates and independents have no idea what conservatism means anymore.<br />
Keep going for ideological purity and soon you&#8217;ll be permanently at 35-40 Senators and an 80 seat deficit in the House.</p>
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		<title>By: ProfNickD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProfNickD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GOP tried the route of moderation in 2008 -- the result is in the White House right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP tried the route of moderation in 2008 &#8212; the result is in the White House right now.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>contrarian_libertarian:
&lt;blockquote&gt;But she’s not going to be able to change the prevailing views…..which are hardly “extremist” in nature.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The 2004 Republican Party platform called for extending Fourteenth Amendment protections to fetuses.  Is that within the mainstream?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>contrarian_libertarian:<br />
But she’s not going to be able to change the prevailing views…..which are hardly “extremist” in nature.</p>
<p>The 2004 Republican Party platform called for extending Fourteenth Amendment protections to fetuses.  Is that within the mainstream?</p>
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		<title>By: brutus1791</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce Bartlett has publicly expressed his desire to see the Republican Party go down in flames.  What is too bad, is that I loved his book Wrong on Race... but he seems to have reached a point where he feels like the party left him, and understandably so.  Instead of righting the ship (figuratively, as he OBVIOUSLY does not want it &#039;righted&#039; ideologically ;)  he has chosen to hammer the GOP with broad overgeneralizations and he has seriously entertained the notion of liberal-tarians.  At this point, holding onto him because he is a former Reaganite is not helping, but hurting our ability to rebuild our party and the conservative movement.  &quot;Some men just want to see the world burn&quot; and Mr. Bartlett has stated that he wishes to watch the Republican Party and the Conservative movement burn.
If he wants out, the door is open.  If he wants to demonstrate an ability to criticize both sides and help with more constructive criticism for our (Republican/conservatives here, as many readers seem to not be) movement then I would absolutely appreciate his erudition as an economist and DC insider.  But if he continues with his current tactics, he deserves our heart-felt goodbyes, we cannot let him act as a wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing and slaughter us from within our own ranks like this, and keep pretending to be &quot;Building a Majority that can Win Again&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce Bartlett has publicly expressed his desire to see the Republican Party go down in flames.  What is too bad, is that I loved his book Wrong on Race&#8230; but he seems to have reached a point where he feels like the party left him, and understandably so.  Instead of righting the ship (figuratively, as he OBVIOUSLY does not want it &#8216;righted&#8217; ideologically <img src='http://www.frumforum.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   he has chosen to hammer the GOP with broad overgeneralizations and he has seriously entertained the notion of liberal-tarians.  At this point, holding onto him because he is a former Reaganite is not helping, but hurting our ability to rebuild our party and the conservative movement.  &#8220;Some men just want to see the world burn&#8221; and Mr. Bartlett has stated that he wishes to watch the Republican Party and the Conservative movement burn.<br />
If he wants out, the door is open.  If he wants to demonstrate an ability to criticize both sides and help with more constructive criticism for our (Republican/conservatives here, as many readers seem to not be) movement then I would absolutely appreciate his erudition as an economist and DC insider.  But if he continues with his current tactics, he deserves our heart-felt goodbyes, we cannot let him act as a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing and slaughter us from within our own ranks like this, and keep pretending to be &#8220;Building a Majority that can Win Again&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: EscapeVelocity</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/dont-despair-yet-mr-bartlett/comment-page-1#comment-62276</link>
		<dc:creator>EscapeVelocity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can always run the Farthest Left Centrist Republican Senator from Arizona again.

You won alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can always run the Farthest Left Centrist Republican Senator from Arizona again.</p>
<p>You won alright.</p>
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		<title>By: rbottoms</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Conservatives aren’t interested in liberals posing as conservatives telling us what to do.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We won in 2008 and we&#039;ll win again in 2010 if Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, and Michael Steele clones are the best you&#039;ve got.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Get over it
Get over it
All this bitchin and moanin and pitchin a fit
Get over it, get over it

Get over it
Get over it
Its gotta stop sometime, so why don&#039;t you quit
Get over it, get over it

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/eagles/get+over+it_20044468.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Eagles&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives aren’t interested in liberals posing as conservatives telling us what to do.</p>
<p>We won in 2008 and we&#8217;ll win again in 2010 if Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, and Michael Steele clones are the best you&#8217;ve got.</p>
<p>Get over it<br />
Get over it<br />
All this bitchin and moanin and pitchin a fit<br />
Get over it, get over it</p>
<p>Get over it<br />
Get over it<br />
Its gotta stop sometime, so why don&#8217;t you quit<br />
Get over it, get over it</p>
<p>The Eagles</p>
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		<title>By: EscapeVelocity</title>
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		<dc:creator>EscapeVelocity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Conservatives should understand that the socialist revolution will not stop, and give up.

The new identity groups that pop up to persue special priveleges and their piece of the state handouts will be interesting.

Men - Misandry is running wild!
Whites -  The villification of light skinned folk and discrimination against them must stop.  End the bigotry.
European Ethnicities
Heterosexuals
Christians - Christianophobia is running wild!
Western Rednecks - We are people too, our culture should be respected and celebrated in the diversity circle.
The National Association for the Advancement of Unborn People

What a hoot!

Then we can all demand that the government promote our interests over other groups interests.  And all this hate filled Conservative Bourgousie False Consciousness will be relegated to the dust bin of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Conservatives should understand that the socialist revolution will not stop, and give up.</p>
<p>The new identity groups that pop up to persue special priveleges and their piece of the state handouts will be interesting.</p>
<p>Men &#8211; Misandry is running wild!<br />
Whites &#8211;  The villification of light skinned folk and discrimination against them must stop.  End the bigotry.<br />
European Ethnicities<br />
Heterosexuals<br />
Christians &#8211; Christianophobia is running wild!<br />
Western Rednecks &#8211; We are people too, our culture should be respected and celebrated in the diversity circle.<br />
The National Association for the Advancement of Unborn People</p>
<p>What a hoot!</p>
<p>Then we can all demand that the government promote our interests over other groups interests.  And all this hate filled Conservative Bourgousie False Consciousness will be relegated to the dust bin of history.</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all who argue that the way for the GOP to win is to move from the center, rather than towards it ... 

Would George W. Bush have won in 2000 had he not pledged a &quot;humble&quot; foreign policy, had he not called for regulation of CO2 as a pollutant, had he not called for our intelligence services to quit &quot;profiling&quot; Arab-American citizens for extra surveillance?

Would he have won re-election in 2004 had he not passed the Medicare Drug Benefit and No Child Left Behind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all who argue that the way for the GOP to win is to move from the center, rather than towards it &#8230; </p>
<p>Would George W. Bush have won in 2000 had he not pledged a &#8220;humble&#8221; foreign policy, had he not called for regulation of CO2 as a pollutant, had he not called for our intelligence services to quit &#8220;profiling&#8221; Arab-American citizens for extra surveillance?</p>
<p>Would he have won re-election in 2004 had he not passed the Medicare Drug Benefit and No Child Left Behind?</p>
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