Comments on: Do We Have Blood On Our Hands?

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:25:59 +0000

Hmmm… perhaps I just don’t have the right kinks, but I’ve never been particularly interested in having any portion of another person inside any portion of my anatomy. Even Raquel Welch. I put up with it once a year from my doctor, but that’s about it.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that

By: sinz54

sinz54 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:29:06 +0000

balconesfault: That’s my point. Who want want to abort Raquel Welch while she was inside another person’s body?

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:59:39 +0000

“Go watch the movie “Fantastic Voyage” (1966) sometime.”

LOL – Raquel Welch in a skin tight suit … worth it just for that!

Sorry. Back to our usual programming..

By: sinz54

sinz54 — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:22:23 +0000

BoolaBoola sez: “If something is inside my body, then I’m entitled to have it killed, EVEN if it’s a person. Even if it’s an INNOCENT person.”

Go watch the movie “Fantastic Voyage” (1966) sometime.

By: BoolaBoola

BoolaBoola — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:56:49 +0000

"Dr" Tesla (HAHAHA) and sinz54,

First of all, a nervous system does not mean you can feel pain. Fruit flies have nervous systems.

Secondly, fetal personhood doesn't matter. If something is inside my body, then I'm entitled to have it killed, EVEN if it's a person. Even if it's an INNOCENT person.

If all the people in the world, including the innocent ones and the fetuses and both of you and David Frum himself, were assembled somewhere insude my body, then I'd be entitled to kill any or all of them, for any reason or for no reason. That's part of the meaning of the word "my" in the phrase "my body".

By: sinz54

sinz54 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:19:48 +0000

At some point in the fetus' natural development, its brain wave patterns will reach the point of being indistinguishable from those of a newborn infant, even by an expert.

At that point, that fetus is a human baby, as far as I'm concerned. And I oppose aborting it past that point. That point appears to happen somewhere in the middle of the second trimester. Which is why I'm opposed to late-term abortion, except where the fetus has been shown to be unviable.

OTOH, I totally disagree that an embryo is a child, much less a person. Phyllis Schafly's incessant use of the loaded phrase "embryo children" to inveigh against not only embryonic stem-cell research but even in-vitro fertilization, strikes me as scientifically invalid and politically over the top.

By: Dr. Tesla

Dr. Tesla — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:08:37 +0000

I didn’t know most pro-abortionists admitted the fetus had life but that doesn’t matter. That would seem to hurt their cause.

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 19:01:39 +0000

“They just throw out the arguement that it’s not life to convince people that have doubts. “

I look forward to you presenting the evidence that anyone reputable argues that a fetus is not alive.

By: Dr. Tesla

Dr. Tesla — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:58:24 +0000

It’s pointless to even debate the issue of whether or not the fetus is human life, as abortionists will support abortion regardless. They just throw out the arguement that it’s not life to convince people that have doubts.

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:48:56 +0000

I don’t doubt its veracity. I don’t consider it persuasive reasons for a woman who is 6 weeks pregnant to decide she’s going to spend the next 34 weeks carrying a fetus she doesn’t want to raise … or for a family that wants a child, but is provided irrefutable evidence at 34 weeks that the baby will be born with a level of disability that will prevent it from surviving past 2 months to feel compelled to carry the pregnancy to term.

I respect those who make the decision to go through with a pregnancy so they can give a baby up for adoption, or who take on the incredibly daunting responsibility of a baby which will never have more than the brain of a 6 month old (although in the latter case, I do resent to some extent that in many cases a phenomenal amount of taxpayer money will be spent because of their decision).

I’m not going to mandate that people must do things simply so I can respect them.