Comments on: Disability Rights Advocates Cheer Christie’s Reforms http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Novidades 8/2 | Inclusive http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms/comment-page-1#comment-82152 Novidades 8/2 | Inclusive Mon, 08 Feb 2010 03:17:35 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=21631#comment-82152 [...] Disability Rights Advocates Cheer Christie’s Reforms http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms [...] [...] Disability Rights Advocates Cheer Christie’s Reforms http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms [...]

]]> By: ethanellis http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms/comment-page-1#comment-82034 ethanellis Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:49:42 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=21631#comment-82034 The headline on Dana's blog doesn't reflect my sentiments or those of others with disabilities, but as she emailed me, she didn't pick it. Most of us with disabilities here are quite apprehensive about how his administration will treat us - that's not because he's a Republican, have worked directly with the last 8 governors and got more done with Rs than Ds. No, we're worried about the state's fiscal mess - an $8 to $10 billion dollar hole in a $27 billion budget. How he carries out the changes Dana describes will determine whether they help us or not. If he's just interested in savings and doesn't reform the system, we will be hurt badly. Most Americans are unaware of the magnitude of the problems people with disabilities face. Because most of the services they need are mandated, only one in five get them. The other four live in poverty, locked up in substandard, inaccessible homes they leave. Unable to get private insurance because of pre-existing, they're forces onto Medicaid, which limits how much the can earn to less than $12,000. The headline on Dana’s blog doesn’t reflect my sentiments or those of others with disabilities, but as she emailed me, she didn’t pick it. Most of us with disabilities here are quite apprehensive about how his administration will treat us – that’s not because he’s a Republican, have worked directly with the last 8 governors and got more done with Rs than Ds.
No, we’re worried about the state’s fiscal mess – an $8 to $10 billion dollar hole in a $27 billion budget. How he carries out the changes Dana describes will determine whether they help us or not. If he’s just interested in savings and doesn’t reform the system, we will be hurt badly.
Most Americans are unaware of the magnitude of the problems people with disabilities face. Because most of the services they need are mandated, only one in five get them. The other four live in poverty, locked up in substandard, inaccessible homes they leave. Unable to get private insurance because of pre-existing, they’re forces onto Medicaid, which limits how much the can earn to less than $12,000.

]]> By: MikeZero http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms/comment-page-1#comment-81977 MikeZero Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:33:48 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=21631#comment-81977 I'm sorry but you don't understand the situation and I fear that trying to explain would take more time than I'm willing to spend on someone I don't know. Did you even read the link I posted? If you are truly interested in learning about inclusive education, there's lots of information out there for those willing to look. Best, MZ I’m sorry but you don’t understand the situation and I fear that trying to explain would take more time than I’m willing to spend on someone I don’t know. Did you even read the link I posted? If you are truly interested in learning about inclusive education, there’s lots of information out there for those willing to look.

Best,
MZ

]]> By: Carney http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms/comment-page-1#comment-81973 Carney Sat, 06 Feb 2010 03:13:14 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=21631#comment-81973 Teacher time and attention is a zero sum game. Time spent rehashing basic material yet again for the very slow, let alone trying to soothe someone troubled or lacking basic social skills or self-control, is time robbed from everyone else. As for claiming that somehow their presence enhances the education of normal children, that is the worst kind of feel good nonsense. Teacher time and attention is a zero sum game. Time spent rehashing basic material yet again for the very slow, let alone trying to soothe someone troubled or lacking basic social skills or self-control, is time robbed from everyone else. As for claiming that somehow their presence enhances the education of normal children, that is the worst kind of feel good nonsense.

]]> By: MikeZero http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms/comment-page-1#comment-81971 MikeZero Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:55:58 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=21631#comment-81971 Yeah, that's the problem with the education system today... those darn special needs kids. /sarc The fact is that when the proper supports are in place, these children are no more disruptive than your so-called "ordinary" children. Further, as the author stated, studies show that inclusive education benefits all children. (see http://eric.hoagiesgifted.org/faq/i-long.html ) For the record, I don't think you're a bigot. Most people simply don't have the facts. I'm sure we agree that the system needs fixing. However, inclusive education is not the problem. Regards, MZ Yeah, that’s the problem with the education system today… those darn special needs kids. /sarc

The fact is that when the proper supports are in place, these children are no more disruptive than your so-called “ordinary” children. Further, as the author stated, studies show that inclusive education benefits all children. (see http://eric.hoagiesgifted.org/faq/i-long.html )

For the record, I don’t think you’re a bigot. Most people simply don’t have the facts.

I’m sure we agree that the system needs fixing. However, inclusive education is not the problem.

Regards,
MZ

]]> By: Carney http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms/comment-page-1#comment-81963 Carney Sat, 06 Feb 2010 02:33:56 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=21631#comment-81963 Sigh. More classrooms dominated and disrupted by those who demand special time and attention, and more ordinary children being shortchanged. Of course if you complain you're accused of "bigotry" by a screeching emotionally intense exhaustively relentless lobby. Sigh. More classrooms dominated and disrupted by those who demand special time and attention, and more ordinary children being shortchanged. Of course if you complain you’re accused of “bigotry” by a screeching emotionally intense exhaustively relentless lobby.

]]> By: kevin47 http://www.frumforum.com/disability-rights-advocates-cheer-christies-reforms/comment-page-1#comment-81929 kevin47 Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:28:24 +0000 http://www.frumforum.com/?p=21631#comment-81929 This is great. I think being conservative means committing to protecting those who cannot protect themselves, first and foremost. This is great. I think being conservative means committing to protecting those who cannot protect themselves, first and foremost.

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