Comments on: Conservatism’s Greatest Failure: The Academy http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:00:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: ireign http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-4#comment-47894 ireign Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:35:42 +0000 #comment-47894 larryo- " all our country and all our economy; if you and yours, your ignorance and your superstition and your xenophobia and your block-headed adherence to reactionary mythology " Reality-I have said nothing that could be construed as xenophobic but your comments indicate your disgusting stereotypes about Republicans. larryo-"all the cable networks have consistently presented more than twice the talking heads on the right than on the left" Reality-His sources on the stimulus debate is a very left wing blog. Was Michael Moore unavailable? larryo-"you just cannot stand it that we are all in this together, because you want to be *exclusive* or special," Reality-As I said this is about those who want to rebuild the Republican Party not ones whose interests lie in destroying it. If this blog were designed as a crossfire debate, your comments would be more welcome. As for being in this together, I have no idea what you are talking about. We all want this country to succeed but not everyone wants the Republican Party to succeed. You unfortunately are part of the latter group and your continued posting shows your juvenile nature and is probably indicative of someone who does not have a job. larryo- ” all our country and all our economy; if you and yours, your ignorance and your superstition and your xenophobia and your block-headed adherence to reactionary mythology ”

Reality-I have said nothing that could be construed as xenophobic but your comments indicate your disgusting stereotypes about Republicans.

larryo-”all the cable networks have consistently presented more than twice the talking heads on the right than on the left”

Reality-His sources on the stimulus debate is a very left wing blog. Was Michael Moore unavailable?

larryo-”you just cannot stand it that we are all in this together, because you want to be *exclusive* or special,”

Reality-As I said this is about those who want to rebuild the Republican Party not ones whose interests lie in destroying it. If this blog were designed as a crossfire debate, your comments would be more welcome. As for being in this together, I have no idea what you are talking about. We all want this country to succeed but not everyone wants the Republican Party to succeed. You unfortunately are part of the latter group and your continued posting shows your juvenile nature and is probably indicative of someone who does not have a job.

]]> By: JJWFromME http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-4#comment-42915 JJWFromME Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:07:48 +0000 #comment-42915 Count me as someone who hopes Nixonland ends-- Nixonland being "the America where two separate and irreconcilable sets of apocalyptic fears coexist in the minds of two separate and irreconcilable groups of Americans." http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/11/05/2008-11-05_did_barack_obama_end_nixonland_no_victor.html There are no real hippies anymore. There is no "New Class" to be paranoid about. This kind of stuff all should have ended when someone my age left grammar school. Let's just run the freaking country already--instead of run it into the ground. Count me as someone who hopes Nixonland ends– Nixonland being “the America where two separate and irreconcilable sets of apocalyptic fears coexist in the minds of two separate and irreconcilable groups of Americans.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/11/05/2008-11-05_did_barack_obama_end_nixonland_no_victor.html
There are no real hippies anymore. There is no “New Class” to be paranoid about. This kind of stuff all should have ended when someone my age left grammar school. Let’s just run the freaking country already–instead of run it into the ground.

]]> By: larryo http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-4#comment-49621 larryo Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:49:51 +0000 #comment-49621 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/06/senate-cable-stimulus-debate/ Poor ireign - you just cannot stand it that we are all in this together, because you want to be *exclusive* or special somehow. I guess you think you are one of Dr. Seuss's Star-Bellied Sneetches. Try to get this through your thick skull - it's all our country and all our economy; if you and yours, your ignorance and your superstition and your xenophobia and your block-headed adherence to reactionary mythology are not confronted and dealt with, if you are not made to see the light at which you refuse to look, then we will all suffer mightily as so many are suffering right now from the logical, foreseeable outcome of the policies you and yours continue to support. There are a number of conservative columnists on this blog saying exactly the same thing right now (albeit rather more gently), but you cannot hear them, can you, ireign? You are too busy trying to keep the infidels out of the club - keep them silent - so you, at least, don't have to contemplate what they are saying. You are the poster child for disingenuous ignorance, and you don't want anyone knowing it. Too bad! http://thinkprogress.org/2009/02/06/senate-cable-stimulus-debate/ Poor ireign – you just cannot stand it that we are all in this together, because you want to be *exclusive* or special somehow. I guess you think you are one of Dr. Seuss’s Star-Bellied Sneetches. Try to get this through your thick skull – it’s all our country and all our economy; if you and yours, your ignorance and your superstition and your xenophobia and your block-headed adherence to reactionary mythology are not confronted and dealt with, if you are not made to see the light at which you refuse to look, then we will all suffer mightily as so many are suffering right now from the logical, foreseeable outcome of the policies you and yours continue to support. There are a number of conservative columnists on this blog saying exactly the same thing right now (albeit rather more gently), but you cannot hear them, can you, ireign? You are too busy trying to keep the infidels out of the club – keep them silent – so you, at least, don’t have to contemplate what they are saying. You are the poster child for disingenuous ignorance, and you don’t want anyone knowing it. Too bad!

]]> By: JJWFromME http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-4#comment-52110 JJWFromME Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:45:44 +0000 #comment-52110 "Today our country is being psychologically divided by the confusion and the suspicions that are bred in the United States Senate to spread like cancerous tentacles of know nothing, suspect everything attitudes."--a great phrase from MCS's speech. We'd all be better off if a lot of you "knew more and suspected less." “Today our country is being psychologically divided by the confusion and the suspicions that are bred in the United States Senate to spread like cancerous tentacles of know nothing, suspect everything attitudes.”–a great phrase from MCS’s speech. We’d all be better off if a lot of you “knew more and suspected less.”

]]> By: JJWFromME http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-4#comment-48358 JJWFromME Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:38:02 +0000 #comment-48358 "The goal of this blog is to rebuild the Republican Party and possibly center-right ideology." I'd like a better Republican party too. It's like Margaret Chase Smith said in her Declaration of Conscience, it's not enough to win, but win with integrity and intellectual honesty: http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/margaretchasesmithconscience.html I've watched the GOP very closely over the last couple decades, and it seems to me that this has happened less and less. We'd all be better off if that trend reversed itself. Until it does, I don't see any reason not to continue being a gadfly... “The goal of this blog is to rebuild the Republican Party and possibly center-right ideology.” I’d like a better Republican party too. It’s like Margaret Chase Smith said in her Declaration of Conscience, it’s not enough to win, but win with integrity and intellectual honesty:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/margaretchasesmithconscience.html
I’ve watched the GOP very closely over the last couple decades, and it seems to me that this has happened less and less. We’d all be better off if that trend reversed itself. Until it does, I don’t see any reason not to continue being a gadfly…

]]> By: Fitz http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-4#comment-41149 Fitz Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:12:08 +0000 #comment-41149 The intellectual lightweight Thomas Sowell has a new column up about the left wing academy thats worth reading: http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2009/02/10/de-programming_students?page=full&comments=true The intellectual lightweight Thomas Sowell has a new column up about the left wing academy thats worth reading:

http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2009/02/10/de-programming_students?page=full&comments=true

]]> By: ireign http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-4#comment-40225 ireign Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:43:12 +0000 #comment-40225 Do you have data to back-up your contention? Of course not, Larryo. You are on the fringe of the political spectrum so everyone appears right-wing to you. Which gets me to my original point, why are you and JJWFromME constant commenters on this blog? The goal of this blog is to rebuild the Republican Party and possibly center-right ideology. Your goal is to destroy it. Don't you think what you are doing is pretty juvenile? It likes two adults have a discussion about the Lakers and some unwanted stranger joins the conversation and wont shut up about the Clippers. You have done nothing to add to the discourse on this blog. We all know what left-wingers think, so you reciting psychobabble does nothing for anyone who cares about the Republican party. Do you have data to back-up your contention? Of course not, Larryo. You are on the fringe of the political spectrum so everyone appears right-wing to you.

Which gets me to my original point, why are you and JJWFromME constant commenters on this blog? The goal of this blog is to rebuild the Republican Party and possibly center-right ideology. Your goal is to destroy it. Don’t you think what you are doing is pretty juvenile? It likes two adults have a discussion about the Lakers and some unwanted stranger joins the conversation and wont shut up about the Clippers. You have done nothing to add to the discourse on this blog. We all know what left-wingers think, so you reciting psychobabble does nothing for anyone who cares about the Republican party.

]]> By: larryo http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-3#comment-54122 larryo Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:38:20 +0000 #comment-54122 "radicals dominate our universities and therefore journalism and elite opinion." Well, I guess that depends on how you define journalism. But the figures show that that on the stimulus question the three commercial TV networks and all the cable networks have consistently presented more than twice the talking heads on the right than on the left - that is, for every supporter of Pres. Obama's stimulus package, two and a fraction critics and/or opponents appear. Clever of those left-wing journalists to disguise their political inclinations so well. “radicals dominate our universities and therefore journalism and elite opinion.” Well, I guess that depends on how you define journalism. But the figures show that that on the stimulus question the three commercial TV networks and all the cable networks have consistently presented more than twice the talking heads on the right than on the left – that is, for every supporter of Pres. Obama’s stimulus package, two and a fraction critics and/or opponents appear. Clever of those left-wing journalists to disguise their political inclinations so well.

]]> By: JJWFromME http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-3#comment-50312 JJWFromME Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:09:30 +0000 #comment-50312 Fitz: "...we believe ideas have consequences." I couldn't agree more, or I wouldn't have posted all the things I did below. John Maynard Keynes once said: "The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly understood. Indeed the world is ruled by little else. Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist. Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back." Especially these days, this seems chillingly true... Fitz: “…we believe ideas have consequences.” I couldn’t agree more, or I wouldn’t have posted all the things I did below. John Maynard Keynes once said: “The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly understood. Indeed the world is ruled by little else. Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist. Madmen in authority, who hear voices in the air, are distilling their frenzy from some academic scribbler of a few years back.” Especially these days, this seems chillingly true…

]]> By: Fitz http://www.frumforum.com/conservatisms-greatest-failure-the-academy/comment-page-3#comment-51623 Fitz Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:48:26 +0000 #comment-51623 Fine - Me, Allen Guelzo, and Daniel Patrick Moynihan (RIP) will continue to believe that radicals dominate our universities and therefore journalism and elite opinion. As a philosophy major I was mislead in thinking that our thinking is effected by weird and obscure" writers your average person has never heard about. Crazy & paranoid guys that we are we believe ideas have consequences. JJWFromME - What about critical theory, have you heard of that one??? Fine – Me, Allen Guelzo, and Daniel Patrick Moynihan (RIP) will continue to believe that radicals dominate our universities and therefore journalism and elite opinion. As a philosophy major I was mislead in thinking that our thinking is effected by weird and obscure” writers your average person has never heard about.
Crazy & paranoid guys that we are we believe ideas have consequences.

JJWFromME – What about critical theory, have you heard of that one???

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