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		<title>By: rbottoms</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/cal-gov-race-poizner-calls-in-the-cops/comment-page-1#comment-81555</link>
		<dc:creator>rbottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
rbottoms, why are you so intent on still defending Obama’s CO status in the War of Terror and building a strong natl defense?
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Well there goes that narrative.

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&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32399.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Republicans may have a hard time keeping up their talking point about how reading Miranda rights to the Christmas Day bomber represented a dangerous new direction under President Barack Obama.&lt;/a&gt;

It turns out that that back in December 2001, Richard Reid — the “shoe bomber” — was read or reminded of his Miranda rights four times in two days, beginning five minutes after being taken into custody.

Furthermore, the Bush administration specifically rejected the idea of a military tribunal — another step that Republicans have argued should have been taken in the case of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who tried to bring down Northwest Flight 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day and was read his rights after 50 minutes of FBI questioning.

After Reid attempted to blow up an American Airlines flight out of Paris, Massachusetts State Police officers boarded the plane at 12:55 p.m. on Dec. 22, 2001, handcuffed Reid, and removed him from the plane, according to U.S. District Court records.

“At around 1:00 p.m., one of the officers (it is unclear who) read Reid Miranda warnings,” according to a court order in Reid’s case. “The officers then placed Reid inside a police cruiser. … At some point while in the cruiser, Trooper Santiago … asked Reid ‘What happened on the plane?,’ which Reid answered by stating that nothing happened on the plane. … Reid then asked Trooper Santiago ‘Where are the reporters?’”

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Republicans. Lying jerks. Again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rbottoms, why are you so intent on still defending Obama’s CO status in the War of Terror and building a strong natl defense?</p>
<p>Well there goes that narrative.</p>
<p>Republicans may have a hard time keeping up their talking point about how reading Miranda rights to the Christmas Day bomber represented a dangerous new direction under President Barack Obama.</p>
<p>It turns out that that back in December 2001, Richard Reid — the “shoe bomber” — was read or reminded of his Miranda rights four times in two days, beginning five minutes after being taken into custody.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the Bush administration specifically rejected the idea of a military tribunal — another step that Republicans have argued should have been taken in the case of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who tried to bring down Northwest Flight 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day and was read his rights after 50 minutes of FBI questioning.</p>
<p>After Reid attempted to blow up an American Airlines flight out of Paris, Massachusetts State Police officers boarded the plane at 12:55 p.m. on Dec. 22, 2001, handcuffed Reid, and removed him from the plane, according to U.S. District Court records.</p>
<p>“At around 1:00 p.m., one of the officers (it is unclear who) read Reid Miranda warnings,” according to a court order in Reid’s case. “The officers then placed Reid inside a police cruiser. … At some point while in the cruiser, Trooper Santiago … asked Reid ‘What happened on the plane?,’ which Reid answered by stating that nothing happened on the plane. … Reid then asked Trooper Santiago ‘Where are the reporters?’”</p>
<p>Republicans. Lying jerks. Again.</p>
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		<title>By: GOProud</title>
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		<dc:creator>GOProud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rbottoms, why are you so intent on still defending Obama&#039;s CO status in the War of Terror and building a strong natl defense?  With the way the WH Democrats are wasting money on no-bid contracts for political cronies, fraud in the Stimulus Spending Spree and diverting TARP repayments away from the US Treasury and into more wasteful, fraud-ridden, political payoff schemes that make Madoff look lame... I&#039;d think you&#039;d support full employment for Raytheon workers?

Oh, I forgot... that spending would actually generate jobs... not promise to create them... or promise to save them like Obama &amp; his spinning liars claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rbottoms, why are you so intent on still defending Obama&#8217;s CO status in the War of Terror and building a strong natl defense?  With the way the WH Democrats are wasting money on no-bid contracts for political cronies, fraud in the Stimulus Spending Spree and diverting TARP repayments away from the US Treasury and into more wasteful, fraud-ridden, political payoff schemes that make Madoff look lame&#8230; I&#8217;d think you&#8217;d support full employment for Raytheon workers?</p>
<p>Oh, I forgot&#8230; that spending would actually generate jobs&#8230; not promise to create them&#8230; or promise to save them like Obama &amp; his spinning liars claim.</p>
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		<title>By: 2-1-2010 The Day in Review &#124; F i a t Lux</title>
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		<dc:creator>2-1-2010 The Day in Review &#124; F i a t Lux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Republican Primary in the California Governor&#8217;s race is turning ugly. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Republican Primary in the California Governor&#8217;s race is turning ugly. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rbottoms</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear Republicans are still inclined to act like loons in their primaries.

BTW, missile defense still doesn&#039;t work. Oh well, better spend another 200-300 billion on it.

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 WASHINGTON, Feb 1 (Reuters) - A U.S. attempt to shoot down a ballistic missile mimicking an attack from Iran failed after a malfunction in a radar built by Raytheon Co (RTN.N), the Defense Department said.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0120076120100202?type=marketsNews&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The botched $150 million test over the Pacific Ocean coincided with a Pentagon report that Iran had expanded its ballistic missile capabilities and posed a &quot;significant&quot; threat to U.S. and allied forces in the Middle East region.&lt;/a&gt;

In the exercise on Sunday, both the target missile, fired from Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands, and the interceptor, from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, performed normally, the Missile Defense Agency said.

&quot;However, the Sea-Based X-band radar did not perform as expected,&quot; the agency said on its website. Officials will investigate the cause of the failure to intercept, it said.

The SBX radar is a major component of the ground-based midcourse defense, the sole U.S. bulwark against long-range missiles that could be tipped with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads.

It was the first time the United States had tested its long-range defense against a simulated Iranian attack.

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Clearly it makes more sense to spend a trillion dollars, racking up one failed $100 million dollar test after another, trying to hit one bullet with another bullet.

hat kind of sense does it make to station a couple of Ageis class attack boats off the coast of North Korea to shoot the missiles down in the boost (or as I like to call it, sitting duck) phase. Because as we all know, making Raytheon richer benefits the American taxpayer so very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear Republicans are still inclined to act like loons in their primaries.</p>
<p>BTW, missile defense still doesn&#8217;t work. Oh well, better spend another 200-300 billion on it.</p>
<p> WASHINGTON, Feb 1 (Reuters) &#8211; A U.S. attempt to shoot down a ballistic missile mimicking an attack from Iran failed after a malfunction in a radar built by Raytheon Co (RTN.N), the Defense Department said.</p>
<p>The botched $150 million test over the Pacific Ocean coincided with a Pentagon report that Iran had expanded its ballistic missile capabilities and posed a &#8220;significant&#8221; threat to U.S. and allied forces in the Middle East region.</p>
<p>In the exercise on Sunday, both the target missile, fired from Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands, and the interceptor, from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California, performed normally, the Missile Defense Agency said.</p>
<p>&#8220;However, the Sea-Based X-band radar did not perform as expected,&#8221; the agency said on its website. Officials will investigate the cause of the failure to intercept, it said.</p>
<p>The SBX radar is a major component of the ground-based midcourse defense, the sole U.S. bulwark against long-range missiles that could be tipped with chemical, biological or nuclear warheads.</p>
<p>It was the first time the United States had tested its long-range defense against a simulated Iranian attack.</p>
<p>Clearly it makes more sense to spend a trillion dollars, racking up one failed $100 million dollar test after another, trying to hit one bullet with another bullet.</p>
<p>hat kind of sense does it make to station a couple of Ageis class attack boats off the coast of North Korea to shoot the missiles down in the boost (or as I like to call it, sitting duck) phase. Because as we all know, making Raytheon richer benefits the American taxpayer so very much.</p>
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