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		<title>By: prm79</title>
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		<dc:creator>prm79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and Brooks need to quit riding the coattails of real conservatives...I&#039;m sick of bottomfeeding, spineless RINOs throwing this grassroots movement under the bus.  Your no better than that evil man on MSNBC, Janine Garafalo, who thinks tea partiers are racists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and Brooks need to quit riding the coattails of real conservatives&#8230;I&#8217;m sick of bottomfeeding, spineless RINOs throwing this grassroots movement under the bus.  Your no better than that evil man on MSNBC, Janine Garafalo, who thinks tea partiers are racists.</p>
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		<title>By: Goliath Has Nothing to Fear from These Davids &#171; Calvin Freiburger Online</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/brooks-nails-it/comment-page-2#comment-66939</link>
		<dc:creator>Goliath Has Nothing to Fear from These Davids &#171; Calvin Freiburger Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nothing to Fear from These&#160;Davids October 6, 2009 &#8212; Calvin Freiburger   David Frum is promoting David Brooks’ latest column, in which Brooks says: Just months after the election and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nothing to Fear from These&nbsp;Davids October 6, 2009 &#8212; Calvin Freiburger   David Frum is promoting David Brooks’ latest column, in which Brooks says: Just months after the election and the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/brooks-nails-it/comment-page-2#comment-66874</link>
		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;A recent poll found 35% of Democrats think Bush knew about 9-11 coming in advance and did nothing about it. &lt;/b&gt;

Well, remember that in the same poll, 15% of Republicans thought Bush knew about 9-11 in advance, as well.

My belief is that per normal for Rasumssen, the question was vastly oversimplified - the way the question was put, it is likely that many remembered the whole &quot;Bin Laden Determined to Strike&quot; memo stuff, and conflated the fact that Bush was aware Al Qaeda wanted to attack America, and the accusation that Bush knew something was coming down on 9/11 and did nothing to stop it.

We see that same sloppiness from Rasumssen on their healthcare polling - they seem determined not to ask about specific portions of the healthcare bill, instead just asking things like &quot;Do You Support Obama&#039;s Healthcare Bill&quot;.  Which explains that while 65% of the American Public respond favorably to the question of a Public Option, about the same percentage tell Rasmussen that they oppose Obama&#039;s plan.  Which makes one wonder if they want a Public Option without the other stuff ... or if they&#039;re just generally misinformed.

Whichever the case - Rasmussen doesn&#039;t seem interested in finding out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A recent poll found 35% of Democrats think Bush knew about 9-11 coming in advance and did nothing about it. </p>
<p>Well, remember that in the same poll, 15% of Republicans thought Bush knew about 9-11 in advance, as well.</p>
<p>My belief is that per normal for Rasumssen, the question was vastly oversimplified &#8211; the way the question was put, it is likely that many remembered the whole &#8220;Bin Laden Determined to Strike&#8221; memo stuff, and conflated the fact that Bush was aware Al Qaeda wanted to attack America, and the accusation that Bush knew something was coming down on 9/11 and did nothing to stop it.</p>
<p>We see that same sloppiness from Rasumssen on their healthcare polling &#8211; they seem determined not to ask about specific portions of the healthcare bill, instead just asking things like &#8220;Do You Support Obama&#8217;s Healthcare Bill&#8221;.  Which explains that while 65% of the American Public respond favorably to the question of a Public Option, about the same percentage tell Rasmussen that they oppose Obama&#8217;s plan.  Which makes one wonder if they want a Public Option without the other stuff &#8230; or if they&#8217;re just generally misinformed.</p>
<p>Whichever the case &#8211; Rasmussen doesn&#8217;t seem interested in finding out.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/brooks-nails-it/comment-page-2#comment-66871</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>escapevelocity:

True, Clinton acted moderate.

And you&#039;ll notice, Clinton went on to serve two terms, and retired with a much higher approval rating that Bush did.

Don&#039;t you get it?  When the public wants change, it&#039;s the public officials who are perceived as out of step &lt;i&gt;in their own districts&lt;/i&gt; that get the shaft.  Clinton was smart enough to change with the times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>escapevelocity:</p>
<p>True, Clinton acted moderate.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;ll notice, Clinton went on to serve two terms, and retired with a much higher approval rating that Bush did.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you get it?  When the public wants change, it&#8217;s the public officials who are perceived as out of step in their own districts that get the shaft.  Clinton was smart enough to change with the times.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe In NH</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/brooks-nails-it/comment-page-2#comment-66864</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe In NH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In line with what Brooks is saying, it must be remembered that the fact that you have a few million Americans who take one side of an issue AND are very vocal about it doesn&#039;t really mean much anymore  in a country of 300 million. A recent  poll found 35% of Democrats think Bush knew about 9-11 coming in advance and did nothing about it. Another poll has over 25% of Republicans saying Obama was not born in Hawaii. Here we are talking about millions on the left and right who the vast majority of people, ie, people in the middle, think are crazies. I realize the birther poll is suspect to many  because it was done for Kos, a known left blog,even though by a reputable polling company  but the point here is that 1 or 2 or even 4-5 million ditto heads and $1.89 will get you a coffee (at Dunkin Donuts and not Starbucks) but won&#039;t get you the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In line with what Brooks is saying, it must be remembered that the fact that you have a few million Americans who take one side of an issue AND are very vocal about it doesn&#8217;t really mean much anymore  in a country of 300 million. A recent  poll found 35% of Democrats think Bush knew about 9-11 coming in advance and did nothing about it. Another poll has over 25% of Republicans saying Obama was not born in Hawaii. Here we are talking about millions on the left and right who the vast majority of people, ie, people in the middle, think are crazies. I realize the birther poll is suspect to many  because it was done for Kos, a known left blog,even though by a reputable polling company  but the point here is that 1 or 2 or even 4-5 million ditto heads and $1.89 will get you a coffee (at Dunkin Donuts and not Starbucks) but won&#8217;t get you the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: EscapeVelocity</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/brooks-nails-it/comment-page-2#comment-66843</link>
		<dc:creator>EscapeVelocity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Show me examples of Dems talking like moderates before November 1994.

Bubba Clinton and the DLC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Show me examples of Dems talking like moderates before November 1994.</p>
<p>Bubba Clinton and the DLC</p>
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		<title>By: DFL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans lost in 2006 because most Americans believed that the adventure in Iraq was a waste of blood and money.  Brooks supported that war.  The Republicans lost in 2008 because of the Iraq war combined with the Wall Street debacle.  Brooks supports the war in Iraq and is chummy with Wall Street.  Perhaps David Brooks and his policies are what got the Republicans into trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans lost in 2006 because most Americans believed that the adventure in Iraq was a waste of blood and money.  Brooks supported that war.  The Republicans lost in 2008 because of the Iraq war combined with the Wall Street debacle.  Brooks supports the war in Iraq and is chummy with Wall Street.  Perhaps David Brooks and his policies are what got the Republicans into trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/brooks-nails-it/comment-page-2#comment-66819</link>
		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sdspringy:  &lt;blockquote&gt; Conservatives did come to grips with the things Bush and the GOP did wrong. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Conservatives were a day late and a dollar short:

In the 2008 GOP primary debates, the only two candidates who had anything negative to say about the economy were Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee.  All the others said the economy was doing well, and Bush should get credit for it.  In National Review, Larry Kudlow said that the U.S. economy was &quot;the greatest story never told&quot;; and in column after column, that magazine kept touting how well the economy was doing.

Finally, Alan Greenspan actually said that the complexity of the derivatives markets and the credit markets helped reduce risk.

BTW, I had been subscribing to an investment newsletter, Growth Fund Guide, which for years had been warning its subscribers about just this problem.   Another investment newsletter, Dow Theory Letters, did likewise.  

So it&#039;s not like no one could have forseen this.  Some savvy investors did.  But in the political arena, conservatives, for the most part, did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sdspringy:   Conservatives did come to grips with the things Bush and the GOP did wrong.<br />
Conservatives were a day late and a dollar short:</p>
<p>In the 2008 GOP primary debates, the only two candidates who had anything negative to say about the economy were Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee.  All the others said the economy was doing well, and Bush should get credit for it.  In National Review, Larry Kudlow said that the U.S. economy was &#8220;the greatest story never told&#8221;; and in column after column, that magazine kept touting how well the economy was doing.</p>
<p>Finally, Alan Greenspan actually said that the complexity of the derivatives markets and the credit markets helped reduce risk.</p>
<p>BTW, I had been subscribing to an investment newsletter, Growth Fund Guide, which for years had been warning its subscribers about just this problem.   Another investment newsletter, Dow Theory Letters, did likewise.  </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s not like no one could have forseen this.  Some savvy investors did.  But in the political arena, conservatives, for the most part, did not.</p>
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		<title>By: EscapeVelocity</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/brooks-nails-it/comment-page-2#comment-66793</link>
		<dc:creator>EscapeVelocity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, Brooks can endorse Barrack Obama for president, but he has lost all credibility as a conservative in doing so.....ditto Buckley Jr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, Brooks can endorse Barrack Obama for president, but he has lost all credibility as a conservative in doing so&#8230;..ditto Buckley Jr.</p>
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		<title>By: sdspringy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sdspringy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives did come to grips with the things Bush and the GOP did wrong.  This mainly was the increase in government and no responsible fiscal policy.  Thus the conservative saw no difference between Bush and Mac., whereas the Frumm Republicans were just fine with both problems.  

While the Dems were always posied to run away from the war, no matter which one,  and for any reason.  Conservatives saw the only redeeming quality of Bush was to stick and finish.  And here we are after an election of a Dem proclaiming the necessity of the &quot;necessary war&quot; and the Dems are again poised to run as fast as they can.   

The &quot;GOP&quot; / Frumms are always ready to throw Bush under the bus, and Obama is continuing many of the Bush policies and we still have the likes of Sinz54 proclaiming another apology is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives did come to grips with the things Bush and the GOP did wrong.  This mainly was the increase in government and no responsible fiscal policy.  Thus the conservative saw no difference between Bush and Mac., whereas the Frumm Republicans were just fine with both problems.  </p>
<p>While the Dems were always posied to run away from the war, no matter which one,  and for any reason.  Conservatives saw the only redeeming quality of Bush was to stick and finish.  And here we are after an election of a Dem proclaiming the necessity of the &#8220;necessary war&#8221; and the Dems are again poised to run as fast as they can.   </p>
<p>The &#8220;GOP&#8221; / Frumms are always ready to throw Bush under the bus, and Obama is continuing many of the Bush policies and we still have the likes of Sinz54 proclaiming another apology is required.</p>
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