Attorney General Holder has decided to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate supposed abuses by CIA operatives. A former high-level Bush official expressed shock to NewMajority at President Obama’s strange moral standards. The official said: President Obama “has given the Defense Department the legal authorization to assassinate fifty Afghan heroin traffickers. I don’t understand it because interrogation has brought actionable intelligence while killing someone gets no intelligence.”
A former CIA operative told NM: “Anytime you are putting a human being under duress it is nasty. How can Holder be disgusted by what we did? Even non-physical interrogation is not a pretty thing to watch. You have to understand that he (the operative) is attempting to get someone to give up something he doesn’t want to give up to save American lives.” A former Bush official concurred and stated that the CIA is made up of “professionals who know what they are doing despite what this administration is saying. They have been very successful at preventing future attacks.”
Does Holder have a basis for establishing a special prosecutor? Everyone interviewed said absolutely not. A former high ranking CIA official felt that “this reopening of the cases smacks of double jeopardy.” NewMajority was able to view CIA Director Panetta’s message to the Agency’s employees in which he explained that these cases were already examined by the DOJ. He explained that “the report was made available to the leadership of the Congressional intelligence committees in 2004 and to the full committees in 2006. All of the material in the document has been subject to Congressional oversight and reviewed for legal accountability… The CIA has a strong record in terms of following legal guidance and informing the Department of Justice of potentially illegal conduct.”
All the former CIA employees informed NewMajority that in any organization, there will be rogues — the CIA is no different. However, a former senior intelligence official summed up everyone’s feelings when he stated that “Holder has a firm grasp of the rear view mirror and seems intent on slamming the engine of government into reverse. No one is defending the actions and comments of a small group of Agency officers who were singled out in the IG report. That is why the CIA told the IG about them and the CIA referred these cases to career prosecutors, not Bush administration people, at DOJ.” A former high ranking CIA official felt what is happening “is shameful really. It’s unprecedented. We were the ones who took the initiative to report misdeeds.”
All those interviewed are curious why this is all happening at this time. Many of them speculated that they are being used by the administration not only to appease the left, but also as a deflection for all the other problems Obama is having. In other words, they are scapegoats for the Obama administration. They all attest to the fact that none of the information coming out is new. They all believe that there is no need for a special prosecutor. The only reason Holder is appointing one is for a fishing expedition. One former operative felt that “they don’t have any specific cases against somebody so now they are going to play around in the dark to try to find something.”
In interviews with NM, Congressman Rooney (R-FL), a former JAG prosecutor, said it is unfair to go back and change the rules after the fact.” Congressman Hoekstra (R-MI) stated that the fact that “the Obama administration apparently is planning to reopen these cases after thorough review by nonpartisan prosecutors raises serious questions.” Minority Whip Cantor (R-VI) went even further, stating that “I find it very troubling that this administration is turning on the servants of this country who were trying to protect Americans… that is not how we settle political scores with successive administrations.”


































Rodak // Aug 28, 2009 at 5:18 am
Q: Are we weenies?
A: Those among us who believe that “9/11 Changed Everything!” tend to be equally divided between the Weenies and the Pussies. All members of each of these clans belongs to the tribe, Moloch-Worshipping Golems.
LFC // Aug 28, 2009 at 2:55 pm
jabbermule said… That said, I continue to assert that the practice of utilizing psychologically disturbing techniques to obtain information that will prevent acts of terrorism is a morally superior approach to killing innocent civilians to achieve a political goal.
How about killing 100 people we held captivity? Even the military has admitted that over 20 of those were murders. (I guess the other 80 or so were “accidents”.) Jose Padilla, a disgruntled man (and American citizen) who had no plan, no weapons, and no material support, was tortured until he went insane. Yes, years of solitary and sensory deprivation are torture, and they can easily make somebody go insane.
How about the torture of hundreds (thousands?) of innocent people? We let over 2/3 of the people stuffed in Gitmo out with no charges. Many have detailed the torture they received.
You live in a dreamworld where everybody we suspect is known to be guilty of trying to kill us, and the people who use torture always know exactly when to stop because no more information is forthcoming. You think that “24″ is a documentary. Pathetic.
Reality Chick // Aug 28, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Jreb’s comment above (Aug 25) says it all; I could not have put the same point across more succintly or more accurately.
This entire dialogue is disgusting to me. Maybe God is able to view a terrorist and a secretary in a corner of one of the twin towers as two souls of equal value but none of us can claim the same prerogative. If any US citizen can equate the two, they need the type of help that no (old or new) health care system will ever be able to provide adequate services for.
Rodak // Aug 29, 2009 at 9:22 pm
The right certainly does like to throw out false analogies. The secretary in the twin towers is not comparable to the terrorist in the plane. The secretary in the twin towers is comparable to the young mother in Baghdad or Afghanistan who dies under American bombs. The terrorists are all in planes. Except for those in caves, or office buildings, who send them with their bombs to kill civilians.
Continuity You Can Believe In | FrumForum // Apr 7, 2010 at 8:03 am
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