Comments on: Birthers: Ignorance is No Excuse http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse Building a conservatism that can win again Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:08:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: links 8/17/09 « Johnsenclan http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-60602 links 8/17/09 « Johnsenclan Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:05:58 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-60602 [...] to a new poll in North Caronlina, only 24% of Republicans believe President Obama was born in the U.S. Of that same group, 7% don’t believe Hawaii is part of the United [...] [...] to a new poll in North Caronlina, only 24% of Republicans believe President Obama was born in the U.S. Of that same group, 7% don’t believe Hawaii is part of the United [...]

]]> By: palomino http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-59857 palomino Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:22:42 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59857 sinz: "Liberals have been using that argument since Obama was inaugurated: We gotta be nice to Obama, real nice, because otherwise we will “create a climate” in which “the first black President” could possibly be assassinated. I’m not buying it. A number of Presidents have faced assassination attempts: Lincoln, McKinley, FDR, JFK, Ford, Reagan, etc. Nobody talked about “creating a climate” back then. Obama will just have to take his chances like every other President." This attitude is both shockingly ignorant and irresponsible. Concern over Obama's safety is hardly a liberal fantasy. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html And do you honestly believe there was no awareness of a heightened rhetoric during the American Freakin' Civil War that could have further endangered Lincoln? There's a huge difference between "being real nice" to Obama and propagating the lie that he's a foreign-born Muslim usurper trojan horse who worships Hitler and wants to literally cause the downfall of America. sinz: “Liberals have been using that argument since Obama was inaugurated: We gotta be nice to Obama, real nice, because otherwise we will “create a climate” in which “the first black President” could possibly be assassinated. I’m not buying it. A number of Presidents have faced assassination attempts: Lincoln, McKinley, FDR, JFK, Ford, Reagan, etc. Nobody talked about “creating a climate” back then. Obama will just have to take his chances like every other President.”

This attitude is both shockingly ignorant and irresponsible. Concern over Obama’s safety is hardly a liberal fantasy. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5967942/Barack-Obama-faces-30-death-threats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html

And do you honestly believe there was no awareness of a heightened rhetoric during the American Freakin’ Civil War that could have further endangered Lincoln?

There’s a huge difference between “being real nice” to Obama and propagating the lie that he’s a foreign-born Muslim usurper trojan horse who worships Hitler and wants to literally cause the downfall of America.

]]> By: 13 August 09 (am) « blueollie http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-59815 13 August 09 (am) « blueollie Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:33:02 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59815 [...] test whether conservatives in North Carolina knew if Hawaii was a state or not. Ok, 88 percent did, but the remaining 12 percent either didn’t know or said “no, it wasn’t.” According to Public Policy Polling (PPP), a North Carolina polling firm, only 24% of [...] [...] test whether conservatives in North Carolina knew if Hawaii was a state or not. Ok, 88 percent did, but the remaining 12 percent either didn’t know or said “no, it wasn’t.” According to Public Policy Polling (PPP), a North Carolina polling firm, only 24% of [...]

]]> By: Op/Ed: Legitimate opposition from the GOP is needed | Peoria Pundit http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-59775 Op/Ed: Legitimate opposition from the GOP is needed | Peoria Pundit Thu, 13 Aug 2009 11:30:29 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59775 [...] came across these statistics and found them disturbing: According to Public Policy Polling (PPP), a North Carolina polling firm, [...] [...] came across these statistics and found them disturbing: According to Public Policy Polling (PPP), a North Carolina polling firm, [...]

]]> By: Dustin Ferrell http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-59745 Dustin Ferrell Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:07:37 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59745 http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/08/11/south/index.html Michael Lind's essay isn't a bad read, once the conservatives and liberals alike in here are done indulging themselves on birther-baiting. http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/08/11/south/index.html

Michael Lind’s essay isn’t a bad read, once the conservatives and liberals alike in here are done indulging themselves on birther-baiting.

]]> By: Blog de Ford - And They Wonder Why We Think They Are Stupid http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-59734 Blog de Ford - And They Wonder Why We Think They Are Stupid Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:13:32 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59734 [...] Wow! North Carolina Republicans just explained the idiocy of the birther/deather/ teabagger people: 7% of those who voted for John McCain do not believe Hawaii to be a part of the United States. [...] [...] Wow! North Carolina Republicans just explained the idiocy of the birther/deather/ teabagger people: 7% of those who voted for John McCain do not believe Hawaii to be a part of the United States. [...]

]]> By: rbottoms http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-59730 rbottoms Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:53:25 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59730 <blockquote> Would you care to address your own thoughts on whether getting caught carrying a loaded unlicensed handgun on public school property should result in only a misdemeanor charge? </blockquote> 1. It's stupid 2. I don't live there, perhaps the people who do should change the law 3. Why are you writing in caps? Does it sound louder to you? <blockquote> Is it REALLY your intent to give Dems who have ceased doing anything related to criminalizing (making it a felony) behavior such as getting caught carrying a loaded unlicensed firearm on school grounds a pass because… er… they don’t want to risk being “demonized…?” </blockquote> Darn, that's a tough one: Let the gun nuts bury all the AR-15's they want in their back yard so we can get some other things done or not... Or to put it another way: Republican control of the White House and minority status in Congress when we push gun control v.s. control of the White House, House of Representatives and Senate when we don't. I report, you decide.

Would you care to address your own thoughts on whether getting caught carrying a loaded unlicensed handgun on public school property should result in only a misdemeanor charge?

1. It’s stupid

2. I don’t live there, perhaps the people who do should change the law

3. Why are you writing in caps? Does it sound louder to you?

Is it REALLY your intent to give Dems who have ceased doing anything related to criminalizing (making it a felony) behavior such as getting caught carrying a loaded unlicensed firearm on school grounds a pass because… er… they don’t want to risk being “demonized…?”

Darn, that’s a tough one: Let the gun nuts bury all the AR-15’s they want in their back yard so we can get some other things done or not…

Or to put it another way:

Republican control of the White House and minority status in Congress when we push gun control v.s. control of the White House, House of Representatives and Senate when we don’t.

I report, you decide.

]]> By: barker13 http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-59726 barker13 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:34:56 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59726 Re: Rbottoms // Aug 12, 2009 at 6:57 pm (#24) - ONE MORE TIME Would you care to address my point? Would you care to address your own thoughts on whether getting caught carrying a loaded unlicensed handgun on public school property should result in only a misdemeanor charge? And then... if and when you answer that question, here's another: Is it REALLY your intent to give Dems who have ceased doing anything related to criminalizing (making it a felony) behavior such as getting caught carrying a loaded unlicensed firearm on school grounds a pass because... er... they don't want to risk being "demonized...?" That's kinda how it comes across... (*SHRUG*) BILL Re: Rbottoms // Aug 12, 2009 at 6:57 pm (#24) -

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Would you care to address my point?

Would you care to address your own thoughts on whether getting caught carrying a loaded unlicensed handgun on public school property should result in only a misdemeanor charge?

And then… if and when you answer that question, here’s another:

Is it REALLY your intent to give Dems who have ceased doing anything related to criminalizing (making it a felony) behavior such as getting caught carrying a loaded unlicensed firearm on school grounds a pass because… er… they don’t want to risk being “demonized…?”

That’s kinda how it comes across…

(*SHRUG*)

BILL

]]> By: rbottoms http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-2#comment-59665 rbottoms Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:57:20 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59665 It's not snark, it's a fact. Democrats have ceased doing anything related to gun control, however sensible, because they will be demonized about it come election time. It’s not snark, it’s a fact. Democrats have ceased doing anything related to gun control, however sensible, because they will be demonized about it come election time.

]]> By: Matthew Yglesias » Endgame http://www.frumforum.com/birthers-ignorance-is-no-excuse/comment-page-1#comment-59652 Matthew Yglesias » Endgame Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:13:29 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=9746#comment-59652 [...] meet you in the street: — Ignorance is no excuse for [...] [...] meet you in the street: — Ignorance is no excuse for [...]

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