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		<title>By: tommyboy</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/bachmann-to-america-come-storm-congress/comment-page-1#comment-70725</link>
		<dc:creator>tommyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the purpose of this &quot;New Majority&quot; website is to just bash conservatives?  Especially Christian ones?  My, what a surprise ............ LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the purpose of this &#8220;New Majority&#8221; website is to just bash conservatives?  Especially Christian ones?  My, what a surprise &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; LOL</p>
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		<title>By: heidicarlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>heidicarlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get instant medical insurance at the lowest price from <a href="http://bit.ly/39pFJx" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/39pFJx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Reason60</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reason60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; ...look at the whites of their eyes and say, ‘Don’t take away my healthcare.’&quot;....that I don&#039;t have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; &#8230;look at the whites of their eyes and say, ‘Don’t take away my healthcare.’&#8221;&#8230;.that I don&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: JaneG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JaneG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in a state where guaranteed issue has been the law for about 15 years.
Result:
We&#039;re among the highest insurance rates in the country.
Few insurance companies can make a go of it here.
People who once could afford to buy their own policies were priced out of the market.
Nearly 20 percent of our people are on Medicaid, which is bankrupting our state.
Wages are low due to high health insurance costs.

Let&#039;s not do this on a national scale.
Instead let&#039;s fund a national pool for patients who become uninsurable. And let&#039;s make health care financing mor elike true insurance - you pay (and budget) for routine stuff, but the insurance will kick in to help with major medical expenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a state where guaranteed issue has been the law for about 15 years.<br />
Result:<br />
We&#8217;re among the highest insurance rates in the country.<br />
Few insurance companies can make a go of it here.<br />
People who once could afford to buy their own policies were priced out of the market.<br />
Nearly 20 percent of our people are on Medicaid, which is bankrupting our state.<br />
Wages are low due to high health insurance costs.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not do this on a national scale.<br />
Instead let&#8217;s fund a national pool for patients who become uninsurable. And let&#8217;s make health care financing mor elike true insurance &#8211; you pay (and budget) for routine stuff, but the insurance will kick in to help with major medical expenses.</p>
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		<title>By: ottovbvs</title>
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		<dc:creator>ottovbvs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinz:
&quot;Fortunately, I live in Massachusetts, where Romney’s health care reform package, passed in 2006, included guaranteed issue.&quot;

......But of course you don&#039;t want the rest of the country to enjoy the same opportunity.......actually as you well know Romney resisted this for a long time and now goes around the country pretending it had nothing to do with him.....St Peter and the cock crowing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinz:<br />
&#8220;Fortunately, I live in Massachusetts, where Romney’s health care reform package, passed in 2006, included guaranteed issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;But of course you don&#8217;t want the rest of the country to enjoy the same opportunity&#8230;&#8230;.actually as you well know Romney resisted this for a long time and now goes around the country pretending it had nothing to do with him&#8230;..St Peter and the cock crowing?</p>
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		<title>By: SFTor1</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFTor1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your comments, Sinz. You see the problem, and you are doing what you can.

We do disagree on universal coverage. It is the key to bringing down the cost for the entire risk pool, i.e. nation. Whether we choose the Swedish or the Swiss model is not so important. The principle is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your comments, Sinz. You see the problem, and you are doing what you can.</p>
<p>We do disagree on universal coverage. It is the key to bringing down the cost for the entire risk pool, i.e. nation. Whether we choose the Swedish or the Swiss model is not so important. The principle is.</p>
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		<title>By: SFTor1</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFTor1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michele Bachmann. To imagine that this jokestress was elected from Minnesota.

She is calling a rather weak reform bill &quot;the crown jewel of socialism.&quot;

When are voters going to reject people who sling this kind of mindless hyperbole?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michele Bachmann. To imagine that this jokestress was elected from Minnesota.</p>
<p>She is calling a rather weak reform bill &#8220;the crown jewel of socialism.&#8221;</p>
<p>When are voters going to reject people who sling this kind of mindless hyperbole?</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bachmann:  &quot;I’d love to have every one of your viewers to join me so we can go up and down through the halls, find members of Congress, look at the whites of their eyes and say, ‘Don’t take away my healthcare.’&quot;

The main threat to Americans&#039; existing employer-provided private health insurance is the public option--if, in the future, it continues to expand at the expense of the private insurance market.

That&#039;s why I&#039;m not in favor of it.

There are other ways to achieve cost containment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bachmann:  &#8220;I’d love to have every one of your viewers to join me so we can go up and down through the halls, find members of Congress, look at the whites of their eyes and say, ‘Don’t take away my healthcare.’&#8221;</p>
<p>The main threat to Americans&#8217; existing employer-provided private health insurance is the public option&#8211;if, in the future, it continues to expand at the expense of the private insurance market.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not in favor of it.</p>
<p>There are other ways to achieve cost containment.</p>
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		<title>By: sinz54</title>
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		<dc:creator>sinz54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sftor1:  &lt;blockquote&gt; I just returned from a retreat for men with cancer, where I help out. Of eleven men, six had declared bankruptcy due to their medical bills. They all had health insurance. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
When I became too sick to work, there went my employer-provided health insurance (after exhausting COBRA).

And of course, in most states I couldn&#039;t purchase individual health insurance--even though I could afford it--because of my new pre-existing condition.  If I had already been covered by individual health insurance, once I got sick, my insurer would have had a right to drop me from their rolls.

Fortunately, I live in Massachusetts, where Romney&#039;s health care reform package, passed in 2006, included guaranteed issue.

If I had gotten sick 10 years earlier, I would have had to declare bankruptcy and go live in a Section 8 housing project, in order to raise the cash to pay for my dialysis and other medical bills.  (My medical bills this year came to over $90,000--for just one year.)

Lanny Davis just wrote a column in which he urged his fellow liberals to think about the plight of folks like me, for whom guaranteed issue is FAR more important than the public option.   Guaranteed issue and mandated near-universal coverage will keep millions of Americans out of bankruptcy.  Far more Americans will be helped by those features, than by a public option that at first will be purchased only by those Americans who aren&#039;t eligible for employer-provided insurance--which is less than 20% of the public.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sftor1:   I just returned from a retreat for men with cancer, where I help out. Of eleven men, six had declared bankruptcy due to their medical bills. They all had health insurance.<br />
When I became too sick to work, there went my employer-provided health insurance (after exhausting COBRA).</p>
<p>And of course, in most states I couldn&#8217;t purchase individual health insurance&#8211;even though I could afford it&#8211;because of my new pre-existing condition.  If I had already been covered by individual health insurance, once I got sick, my insurer would have had a right to drop me from their rolls.</p>
<p>Fortunately, I live in Massachusetts, where Romney&#8217;s health care reform package, passed in 2006, included guaranteed issue.</p>
<p>If I had gotten sick 10 years earlier, I would have had to declare bankruptcy and go live in a Section 8 housing project, in order to raise the cash to pay for my dialysis and other medical bills.  (My medical bills this year came to over $90,000&#8211;for just one year.)</p>
<p>Lanny Davis just wrote a column in which he urged his fellow liberals to think about the plight of folks like me, for whom guaranteed issue is FAR more important than the public option.   Guaranteed issue and mandated near-universal coverage will keep millions of Americans out of bankruptcy.  Far more Americans will be helped by those features, than by a public option that at first will be purchased only by those Americans who aren&#8217;t eligible for employer-provided insurance&#8211;which is less than 20% of the public.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/y87kvkd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y87kvkd</a></p>
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		<title>By: balconesfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>balconesfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Maybe Michele Bachmann should have the experience. Maybe that would help, and then again maybe not.&lt;/b&gt;

It would likely help with her - in my experience, a conservative who favors a progressive cause is one who has been touched with the need for that cause (eg - the Cheney family favors gay rights, many times I&#039;ve met Republicans with athletic teen-age daughters who were big time Title IX advocates, Sinz here is a promoter of protecting Medicare benefits).  But it wouldn&#039;t convince anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Michele Bachmann should have the experience. Maybe that would help, and then again maybe not.</p>
<p>It would likely help with her &#8211; in my experience, a conservative who favors a progressive cause is one who has been touched with the need for that cause (eg &#8211; the Cheney family favors gay rights, many times I&#8217;ve met Republicans with athletic teen-age daughters who were big time Title IX advocates, Sinz here is a promoter of protecting Medicare benefits).  But it wouldn&#8217;t convince anyone else.</p>
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