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		<title>By: The Real Reasons Behind Fed Secrecy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Reasons Behind Fed Secrecy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Audit the Fed? Fine - So Long as Audit is Secret September 28th, 2009 at 9:57 am by Douglas Holtz-Eakin    One potential objection is that these audits might inadvertently disclose the data of private financial firms in ways that are harmful. For example, the Fed has traditionally not disclosed who is borrowing from its discount window so as not to start a </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Audit the Fed? Fine &#8211; So Long as Audit is Secret September 28th, 2009 at 9:57 am by Douglas Holtz-Eakin    One potential objection is that these audits might inadvertently disclose the data of private financial firms in ways that are harmful. For example, the Fed has traditionally not disclosed who is borrowing from its discount window so as not to start a</p>
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		<title>By: ProfNickD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProfNickD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When observers such as Holtz-Eakin call for &quot;independence&quot; for agencies such as the Federal Reserve, where there are no national security concerns and where no American&#039;s life is at risk -- but the information should still be held only by committee chairs -- he is really calling for the Fed to be able to engage in &quot;lying,&quot;not &quot;independence.&quot;

There is no purpose to not reveal what institutions have borrowed at the Fed&#039;s discount window -- those banks potentially in trouble (in such trouble they need to borrow from the Fed because their own loans are such garbage that they can&#039;t collect) perhaps *should* fail.

In other matters, Fed officials have been asked pointed questions at committee hearings, for which they have either given non-responses or manifest falsehoods. Out of the many instances, one example would be: &quot;Has the Fed engaged in agency debt purchases from foreign central banks?&quot;

Fed officials have declared, &quot;none.&quot;

That answer had better be &quot;none&quot; because if it were true, it would mean the U.S. taxpayer is saving foreign central banks and foreign private banks from collapse. But many Fed observers have decried the Fed&#039;s response to this question as  an out-and-out lie. 

See: http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/shell-game-how-federal-reserve-monetizing-debt/25806

A second question is whether the Fed is engaged in fraudulent gold sales, through &quot;leasing&quot; of gold stocks that are in fact non-existent -- the sale of non-existent stocks of gold would greatly depress the price of gold, which is an important indicator of inflationary policies, which the Fed of course would want to lie about. 

See the discussion here: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/smoking-gun-fed-controlling-gold

The Fed claims all lease sales of gold are backed by actual stocks. A public GAO report would validate this fact.

It just seems to me that the only thing at risk by a public audit of the Fed is that somebody&#039;s lies will be revealed to be so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When observers such as Holtz-Eakin call for &#8220;independence&#8221; for agencies such as the Federal Reserve, where there are no national security concerns and where no American&#8217;s life is at risk &#8212; but the information should still be held only by committee chairs &#8212; he is really calling for the Fed to be able to engage in &#8220;lying,&#8221;not &#8220;independence.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no purpose to not reveal what institutions have borrowed at the Fed&#8217;s discount window &#8212; those banks potentially in trouble (in such trouble they need to borrow from the Fed because their own loans are such garbage that they can&#8217;t collect) perhaps *should* fail.</p>
<p>In other matters, Fed officials have been asked pointed questions at committee hearings, for which they have either given non-responses or manifest falsehoods. Out of the many instances, one example would be: &#8220;Has the Fed engaged in agency debt purchases from foreign central banks?&#8221;</p>
<p>Fed officials have declared, &#8220;none.&#8221;</p>
<p>That answer had better be &#8220;none&#8221; because if it were true, it would mean the U.S. taxpayer is saving foreign central banks and foreign private banks from collapse. But many Fed observers have decried the Fed&#8217;s response to this question as  an out-and-out lie. </p>
<p>See: <a href="http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/shell-game-how-federal-reserve-monetizing-debt/25806" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/shell-game-how-federal-reserve-monetizing-debt/25806</a></p>
<p>A second question is whether the Fed is engaged in fraudulent gold sales, through &#8220;leasing&#8221; of gold stocks that are in fact non-existent &#8212; the sale of non-existent stocks of gold would greatly depress the price of gold, which is an important indicator of inflationary policies, which the Fed of course would want to lie about. </p>
<p>See the discussion here: <a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/article/smoking-gun-fed-controlling-gold" rel="nofollow">http://www.zerohedge.com/article/smoking-gun-fed-controlling-gold</a></p>
<p>The Fed claims all lease sales of gold are backed by actual stocks. A public GAO report would validate this fact.</p>
<p>It just seems to me that the only thing at risk by a public audit of the Fed is that somebody&#8217;s lies will be revealed to be so.</p>
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		<title>By: Newbigtech</title>
		<link>http://www.frumforum.com/audit-the-fed-fine-so-long-as-audit-is-secret/comment-page-1#comment-66015</link>
		<dc:creator>Newbigtech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say we audit the fed, and make it public.   We are the government, We the people., remember?

 Why are the servants of the people, like  Bernanke and the Congress hiding the facts?
Why not account for all funds? Why not require a ballanced budget and system?
Why allow the people to suffer for what the elected have done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we audit the fed, and make it public.   We are the government, We the people., remember?</p>
<p> Why are the servants of the people, like  Bernanke and the Congress hiding the facts?<br />
Why not account for all funds? Why not require a ballanced budget and system?<br />
Why allow the people to suffer for what the elected have done?</p>
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