RSS Feed MenuWell, I guess we all know why the birther-pandering J.D. Hayworth is running even with John “Not a Maverick” McCain in Arizona.
In a move practically designed to make the Republican Party look like a bunch of damned fools, the Arizona House voted in favor of right-wing conspiracy nuttery to require that President Obama show his birth certificate or face being wiped off the Arizona ballot in November 2012. Perhaps the House GOP will next take up legislation to question the origin of the fluoride in our water system, or the state Republicans will coalesce around 9/11 Truther (and former State Senator!) Karen Johnson.
And of course, just a few days before passing the “birther bill”, the Arizona House passed another GOP-backed bill (supported, sadly, by McCain) which effectively legalizes stopping anyone who looks Hispanic and asking for their papers. Putting aside very valid moral qualms about the legislation, given our party’s recent frustrations with garnering the votes of the fastest-growing ethnic group in the country, one would think the Arizona House GOP would be interested in working on an approach to immigration that offers real solutions over tawdry racial politics.
A real solution to America’s broken immigration system will require moving beyond intolerant reflexes. Furthermore, a party that obsesses over patently false conspiracy theories is a party undeserving of governance. Modern Republicans, dedicated to building a governing conservatism, ought to stand four-square against both measures passed by the Arizona House and encourage the election of Arizonans who are focused on practical problem-solving.
Slide // Apr 26, 2010 at 12:57 pm
nthinker in an earlier post you said to me, “Your position is about popularity. You are welcome to it. . . Again, you are presenting the popularity argument.”
and now you state: “Over 70% of Arizona residents approve of their law. . . I am sure that if we need to have black and white Americans detained until they produce their birth certificates in order to please the judges that racial profiling is not being used, I think AZ residents would put up with it. ”
I guess it is ok for the great nhthinker to present a “popularity argument” but regardless, the residents of AZ, whether they like it or not, can not legislate away an American’s civil rights.
Listen, I am not going to convince you. After all, you are a birther. Enough said. I am firmly convinced however that the law is unconstitutional, mainly because it is the Federal Governments responsibility to enforce the immigration laws, not local law enforcement. The law also has Fourth Amendment problems regarding unreasonable searches and seizures but that can only be adjudicated when there is an actual case brought before the courts. There are also Fourteenth Amendment problems.
Why don’t we just wait and see how this plays out? Ok spunky? I will be around. You will be around. I imagine we will get a ruling on this rather quickly and then I can gloat or you can say, “I told you so”. Fair deal buttercup?
nhthinker // Apr 26, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Sure, Slide. We can let it slide.
You can continue to confuse federal law and state law. You say yourself law officers stay within the law. But at the same time, you seem to get riled up.
As to the INS law and procedures, to my knowledge they have not recently introduced any new procedures that would make Abdon story one that has not happened many times before. (We still only have Abdon ’s side).
Abdon is welcome to solicit you for his legal fees to sue the FEDERAL government for wrongful and racially illegal behavior. We can have the officer fired or sent to prison for his behavior or throw the lawyer in jail that approved a procedure that was “clearly” discriminatory.
Confusion of anger at the federal procedures versus the state law seems irrational, but I’m not surprised that you want to lump all alleged transgressions by any law enforcement agency and say it proves the AZ law is a bad law.
By the way, have you taken the time to read the law yet, lady slippers?