Alternative Right’s Ugly Racism

March 13th, 2010 at 9:09 am | 61 Comments |

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Tim Mak is right: the website Alternative Right is run by a white nationalist, for white nationalists.

I happen to intermittently know Richard Spencer, the site’s director. Through a couple of mutual contacts, I met him in the midst of CPAC 2009 and received a ride from him from Washington DC’s Dupont Circle, where we were each protesting the censorship imposed upon Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders, to the Marriott Hotel where the convention was being held.

Along the way, things got a little testy. We somehow got into discussing biological differences between the races. Our ideological differences soon emerged, though, because, simply put, I am an individualist and he is a collectivist.

“Show me one black nation that’s ever been run competently,” he challenged me.

“That’s a ridiculous methodology. I’ll accept that claim for argument’s sake and still say that it’s bogus: African nations have not failed because the skin color of the people is black. The skin color is just a coincidence. It’s the culture that’s the problem.”

“Not true,” he said. “You look at Liberia, where ex-slaves went back to Africa, tried to bring American ideals to the country, and failed, because the blacks wouldn’t accept them.”

“This is not Western,” I said. “How can you possibly claim to stand for Western civilization? What’s brilliant about our values is that they stand for the individual, not the supremacy of the group. You come to America, you’re judged by your merits — not by what you look like.”

After a few more back-and-forths, we arrived at our destination, and as our car-mates went ahead, he told me to stay with him for a minute so he could talk to me. As the others faded into the background, he moved just inches away from my face, gave me a menacing look and yelled: “You little child. How dare you talk to me — me! — about the West! You don’t know the first thing about the West! You’re a little twelve-year-old who thinks he knows shit. Don’t you ever talk to me like that again or I will beat your face into the fucking ground!”

As with my infamous argument with gay-basher Ryan Sorba, my confrontations with collectivists always tend to end up degenerating into threats of physical force. Richard Spencer is a fairly tough guy, and I’m, well, kind of scrawny. So I kept my mouth shut. But I was frightened.

I let him walk ahead of me, and it ended there. But that is the real Richard Spencer: a white nationalist, a bully, and an intellectual coward.

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61 Comments so far ↓

  • DanielKnightSchwartz

    Let me amend my last comment because I think I was being a tad to bombastic:

    *Alex Knepper and his PC ilk are intellectual cowards when it comes to the difficult truths surrounding race and IQ and the wealth of nations.

  • Gus

    Yeah, that’s much less bombastic. LOL.

  • agentprovocateur

    re: DanielKnightSchwartz // Mar 16, 2010 at 5:03 am

    Oh my, that was so full of strawmen and red herrings, where does one begin? I didn’t call you a white nationalist and no one wants to live in Zaire. Are you implying that once this is a majority minority country, it will somehow resemble Zaire? And when that day comes, no one claimed it would be “just glorious”. But, your very obvious fears about that day coming is very telling, and the fact that you are Jewish has nothing to do with that.

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  • guyrobin

    According to one of his friends, Richard Spencer used to date an Asian chick. Then he called it off with her when he got in with the ‘white nationalist’ crowd. Funny, if most of the people in the ‘white nationalist’ crowd knew that, they would not want anything to do with him.

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  • mopowell

    This is Michael Orion Powell. I’ve talked with both Knepper and Spencer briefly and wanted to explore this a little further.

    One of the biggest problems is Knepper’s reading of the racialism of the Odinists and Nordic cultists is a freakish form of “collectivism.” It is not. In creating a dichotomy of “individualism” and “collectivism,” Knepper is using the concepts of Ayn Rand, who was a bit disconnected from what really powers most people.

    Tribalism and territorialism is natural amongst all people. If you look throughout the world, wars based on ethno-nationalism are so common that one would have to be in total denial to say its not part of the human character. “Individualism,” on the other hand, is an academic concept. In advanced capitalist economies, supposedly the cornerstone of Randian individualism, niche markets regularly prop up around a particular identity. In even the most liberal cities of the world, people silently self-segregate.

    Folks like Richard Spencer or David Duke are just more open about it. For most people it is instinctual and manifests in much different ways. People find their identity through their family, church, local community or ethnicity. Where there is a large presence of the state, those factors often see the state as an external threat.

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