Comments on: A Tuesday In Early December… http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december Building a conservatism that can win again Sat, 11 Feb 2012 17:50:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: exDemocrat http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-48869 exDemocrat Thu, 22 Jan 2009 02:46:16 +0000 #comment-48869 I won't work for a socialist organization so I have found other outlets for my teaching/helping. I'm working to get school vouchers passed. That will open up opportunities not only for students but for TEACHERS too (or those like me who would change careers to teach). [to sw: no you're not wrong about the t-shirts on teachers! That type of stuff keeps me away from public schools.] I won’t work for a socialist organization so I have found other outlets for my teaching/helping. I’m working to get school vouchers passed. That will open up opportunities not only for students but for TEACHERS too (or those like me who would change careers to teach). [to sw: no you're not wrong about the t-shirts on teachers! That type of stuff keeps me away from public schools.]

]]> By: sw http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-54000 sw Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:30:18 +0000 #comment-54000 I teach ESL in the LAUSD (high school). I get kids who are new to this country and I try to teach them what I learned, as a child of immigrants myself: America is the best country in the world, there is more to our history than Wounded Knee and Abu Ghraib, the Bill of Rights is real and working on their behalf every day. Kids today have never heard of Valley Forge or Gettysburg. They do know about Wounded Knee. The history teachers are the worst: nice people, but whack jobs extraordinaire. And am I wrong to think it is inappropriate for teachers to wear political-statement T-shirts to school? I teach ESL in the LAUSD (high school). I get kids who are new to this country and I try to teach them what I learned, as a child of immigrants myself: America is the best country in the world, there is more to our history than Wounded Knee and Abu Ghraib, the Bill of Rights is real and working on their behalf every day. Kids today have never heard of Valley Forge or Gettysburg. They do know about Wounded Knee.
The history teachers are the worst: nice people, but whack jobs extraordinaire. And am I wrong to think it is inappropriate for teachers to wear political-statement T-shirts to school?

]]> By: fact based http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-52323 fact based Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:02:37 +0000 #comment-52323 "party needs to establish luncheons wherein adults and teens meet for intellectual discourse on an O'Reilly or Cavuto segment. " I think you need to look up the term oxymoron before trying to set up an "intellectual discourse" based on an oreilly segment. “party needs to establish luncheons wherein adults and teens meet for intellectual discourse on an O’Reilly or Cavuto segment. ”

I think you need to look up the term oxymoron before trying to set up an “intellectual discourse” based on an oreilly segment.

]]> By: fact based http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-48870 fact based Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:00:14 +0000 #comment-48870 "I admire my Teach for America colleagues and our mission, but am sure that I could count the number of self-identified Republicans among us on one hand. " ask David Frum for the reason maybe it's because (at least up until recently) cost benefit analysis of the marketplace steered your fellow young republicans to trade derivatives instead of teaching for america “I admire my Teach for America colleagues and our mission, but am sure that I could count the number of self-identified Republicans among us on one hand. ”

ask David Frum for the reason maybe it’s because (at least up until recently) cost benefit analysis of the marketplace steered your fellow young republicans to trade derivatives instead of teaching for america

]]> By: skirkboulter http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-41676 skirkboulter Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:22:07 +0000 #comment-41676 The private sector must command a better fraction of the education of American students; principally because the left wing indoctrination and/or deficiency in the quality of that education dooms not only additional generations to stupidity, but also to left agenda habits. Pragmatically, the Republican party needs to establish luncheons wherein adults and teens meet for intellectual discourse on an O'Reilly or Cavuto segment. A social gathering, based on bringing out younger input, centered on food, will help. The private sector must command a better fraction of the education of American students; principally because the left wing indoctrination and/or deficiency in the quality of that education dooms not only additional generations to stupidity, but also to left agenda habits.
Pragmatically, the Republican party needs to establish luncheons wherein adults and teens meet for intellectual discourse on an O’Reilly or Cavuto segment. A social gathering, based on bringing out younger input, centered on food, will help.

]]> By: wishujoy@gmail.com http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-47341 wishujoy@gmail.com Wed, 21 Jan 2009 04:20:58 +0000 #comment-47341 I also admire you, your Teach for America colleagues and your mission, but it's not enough. One or two teachers can't reform a school and certainly not a poor school district. What's needed are more charter schools where teachers and principal and parents and kids work together toward a common goal of learning. One school can be changed and made accountable; school districts are hopeless bureaucratic quagmires. Abolish them. I also admire you, your Teach for America colleagues and your mission, but it’s not enough. One or two teachers can’t reform a school and certainly not a poor school district. What’s needed are more charter schools where teachers and principal and parents and kids work together toward a common goal of learning. One school can be changed and made accountable; school districts are hopeless bureaucratic quagmires. Abolish them.

]]> By: Clarence Darrow http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-39239 Clarence Darrow Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:13:23 +0000 #comment-39239 Killer comment Bob - 100% spot on in my mind. Killer comment Bob – 100% spot on in my mind.

]]> By: Bob http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-54580 Bob Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:58:10 +0000 #comment-54580 "...conservatives should be relentless on urban issues linking failures to the liberal mind-set that dominates policy." ========== It would indeed be a nice change to have conseratives focus on urban issues. Conseratives/Republicans should give up on muzzling science, give sex a rest, acknowledge that markets need regulation, labor should have a place at the table, America exists north of the Mason-Dixon Line, yes, it would be nice to see conseratives drop all that "neo" crap and focus on the real issues of urban and rural America. Drop the constant campaign that Karl Rove thought would bring about the permenant Rebublican majority. That idea ended in November 2006, and the election of 2008 shamed those who bought into the hate and division sowed by the un-christian right. Conseratives have a lot to answer for and a lot of rethinking to do. “…conservatives should be relentless on urban issues linking failures to the liberal mind-set that dominates policy.”

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It would indeed be a nice change to have conseratives focus on urban issues. Conseratives/Republicans should give up on muzzling science, give sex a rest, acknowledge that markets need regulation, labor should have a place at the table, America exists north of the Mason-Dixon Line, yes, it would be nice to see conseratives drop all that “neo” crap and focus on the real issues of urban and rural America. Drop the constant campaign that Karl Rove thought would bring about the permenant Rebublican majority. That idea ended in November 2006, and the election of 2008 shamed those who bought into the hate and division sowed by the un-christian right. Conseratives have a lot to answer for and a lot of rethinking to do.

]]> By: ziss http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-54803 ziss Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:52:25 +0000 #comment-54803 I have had---and still do----considerable experience in public schools that run the gamut from affluent suburban to poor urban. To be sure, good teachers, administrators and staff make a very important difference. But the most important factor is the students' families. Until we learn how to contact with families that are "indifferent" to their childrens' education, effort and money will continue to be wasted. I have had—and still do—-considerable experience in public schools that run the gamut from affluent suburban to poor urban. To be sure, good teachers, administrators and staff make a very important difference. But the most important factor is the students’ families. Until we learn how to contact with families that are “indifferent” to their childrens’ education, effort and money will continue to be wasted.

]]> By: vrob125 http://www.frumforum.com/a-tuesday-in-early-december/comment-page-1#comment-46741 vrob125 Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:51:27 +0000 #comment-46741 You are a hero. Thank you for what you do. You are a hero. Thank you for what you do.

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