Comments on: 9/11: Some Can Never Forget http://www.frumforum.com/911-some-can-never-forget Building a conservatism that can win again Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:52:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Reality Chick http://www.frumforum.com/911-some-can-never-forget/comment-page-1#comment-64453 Reality Chick Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:38:56 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=12016#comment-64453 It is ridiculous and foolish to be wasting time in a semantic war over what words (extreme measures/ tortue) and colors (black president Obama/ WASP president Bush) and concepts (Geneva Convention policies/ Gitmo) bother the so called left or the so called right and instead of acknowledging the real war, of which 9/11 was only one, but at this point, the worst battle. We lost that one. Do we really want to be wasting time while another looms on the horizon? Let the CIA and intelligence commmunities do their work. So far they have managed to save thousands of lives that we dont see or hear about in the press. Let's appreciate the fact that each one of us could have been one of the thousands of "targeted" citizens AND DON'T EVEN KNOW IT because we didn't know we were in the wrong place at the wrong time and because the CIA and intelligence communities were doing their jobs.. . and doing them very well. It is ridiculous and foolish to be wasting time in a semantic war over what words (extreme measures/ tortue) and colors (black president Obama/ WASP president Bush) and concepts (Geneva Convention policies/ Gitmo) bother the so called left or the so called right and instead of acknowledging the real war, of which 9/11 was only one, but at this point, the worst battle. We lost that one. Do we really want to be wasting time while another looms on the horizon? Let the CIA and intelligence commmunities do their work. So far they have managed to save thousands of lives that we dont see or hear about in the press. Let’s appreciate the fact that each one of us could have been one of the thousands of “targeted” citizens AND DON’T EVEN KNOW IT because we didn’t know we were in the wrong place at the wrong time and because the CIA and intelligence communities were doing their jobs.. . and doing them very well.

]]> By: jreb http://www.frumforum.com/911-some-can-never-forget/comment-page-1#comment-64444 jreb Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:11:13 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=12016#comment-64444 This tragedy was not a black or white , Republican or Democrat issue. It was an American tragedy in which almost 3,000 innocent men and women were slaughtered by Islamic terrorists. It irrevocably changed my life and the lives of all Americans. Nor can any of us can ever afford the luxury of forgetting the impact that tragedy had upon all of us. We can never allow our elected representatives to forget that there still is a clear and present danger to all Americans from Islamic terrorists. This tragedy was not a black or white , Republican or Democrat issue. It was an American tragedy in which almost 3,000 innocent men and women were slaughtered by Islamic terrorists. It irrevocably changed my life and the lives of all Americans. Nor can any of us can ever afford the luxury of forgetting the impact that tragedy had upon all of us. We can never allow our elected representatives to forget that there still is a clear and present danger to all Americans from Islamic terrorists.

]]> By: agentprovocateur http://www.frumforum.com/911-some-can-never-forget/comment-page-1#comment-64368 agentprovocateur Sun, 13 Sep 2009 05:49:31 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=12016#comment-64368 Actually, what is truly pitiful is your reading comprehension. I never claimed that conservatives don't like the president because of the color of his skin. Rather, what I was doing was showing escapevelocity's warped worldview by illustrating how it would look if a similarly cartoonish view were taken of the Right that escapevelocity takes of the Left. But, of course, you exhibit your own warped worldview by actually admitting that you think the president isn't a legitimate U.S. citizen. God Bless America indeed. Actually, what is truly pitiful is your reading comprehension. I never claimed that conservatives don’t like the president because of the color of his skin. Rather, what I was doing was showing escapevelocity’s warped worldview by illustrating how it would look if a similarly cartoonish view were taken of the Right that escapevelocity takes of the Left. But, of course, you exhibit your own warped worldview by actually admitting that you think the president isn’t a legitimate U.S. citizen. God Bless America indeed.

]]> By: livingston5 http://www.frumforum.com/911-some-can-never-forget/comment-page-1#comment-64351 livingston5 Sun, 13 Sep 2009 03:33:26 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=12016#comment-64351 To agentprovocateur: It is pitiful that you cannot accept the fact that many Americans do not like Obama because of his political ideology and not because the color of his skin. I wonder how many other "truthers" he has in his administration? As far as those of us who believe he is not a legitimate U.S. citizen, a long form birth certificate or the release of his college records to prove he was a U.S.not a foreign citizen would clear the accusations up once and for all. I am beginning to wonder if the question, if a man is alone in a forest is he still wrong? should be changed to if a black person makes a mistake is he still right? Why don't you save your opinions for the Daily Kos? God Bless America and the victims and their families who still suffer since 9/11/. To agentprovocateur:
It is pitiful that you cannot accept the fact that many Americans do not like Obama because of his political ideology and not because the color of his skin. I wonder how many other “truthers” he has in his administration? As far as those of us who believe he is not a legitimate U.S. citizen, a long form birth certificate or the release of his college records to prove he was a U.S.not a foreign citizen would clear the accusations up once and for all. I am beginning to wonder if the question, if a man is alone in a forest is he still wrong? should be changed to if a black person makes a mistake is he still right? Why don’t you save your opinions for the Daily Kos? God Bless America and the victims and their families who still suffer since 9/11/.

]]> By: agentprovocateur http://www.frumforum.com/911-some-can-never-forget/comment-page-1#comment-64343 agentprovocateur Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:32:19 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=12016#comment-64343 Let us look at the Right using the same warped, funhouse spectacles that escapevelocity uses to look at the Left, shall we? <i>The Right seems to have an enormous problem with the president. It extends well beyond any disagreement with his philosophy and policies. One can see it in the questioning of his origins. The president is The Other. He is somehow alien, somehow foreign. He probably even sympathizes with the likes of al-Qaeda and Hezbollah. That he wishes to impose a socialist, fascist state on us is crystal clear. He is obviously illegitimate. All this, of course, extends from the fact that he is a black man. How dare this usurper pollute the White House. This filth must be purged from the body politic.</i> Such are the times. Let us look at the Right using the same warped, funhouse spectacles that escapevelocity uses to look at the Left, shall we? The Right seems to have an enormous problem with the president. It extends well beyond any disagreement with his philosophy and policies. One can see it in the questioning of his origins. The president is The Other. He is somehow alien, somehow foreign. He probably even sympathizes with the likes of al-Qaeda and Hezbollah. That he wishes to impose a socialist, fascist state on us is crystal clear. He is obviously illegitimate. All this, of course, extends from the fact that he is a black man. How dare this usurper pollute the White House. This filth must be purged from the body politic. Such are the times.

]]> By: EscapeVelocity http://www.frumforum.com/911-some-can-never-forget/comment-page-1#comment-64289 EscapeVelocity Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:58:39 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=12016#comment-64289 Toning down 9/11 is the strategy of the Obama Administration, you could hear it in Biden's awkward speech the other day. It has long been a tactic by the Left, as well. Holocaust denial is also making a huge comeback on the Left. Such are the times. Toning down 9/11 is the strategy of the Obama Administration, you could hear it in Biden’s awkward speech the other day.

It has long been a tactic by the Left, as well.

Holocaust denial is also making a huge comeback on the Left.

Such are the times.

]]> By: Chekote http://www.frumforum.com/911-some-can-never-forget/comment-page-1#comment-64262 Chekote Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:27:33 +0000 http://www.newmajority.com/?p=12016#comment-64262 I posted this on another thread. But I think it is important. <i>This morning (9/11/09) my husband was sworn as a brand new American citizen. I have been to citizenship ceremonies a few times - including mine - and it is always a very emotional event for me. It always fills me with both pride and appreciation for this great country. Since today is 9/11, I - along with my family and friends - expected that it would be a special ceremony. That a few words would be said in honor of the victims of 9/11. To our shock neither of the two individuals in charge of the ceremony mentioned this important date in our history. Not one word. At the end, my fellow rabble rouser friend and I went to speak to the individuals in charge of the ceremony. One was a lady. When my friend asked her why she didn’t say anything about 9/11. She replied she used to make a big deal about this day but four years ago she felt she needed it to “tone it down”. My friend’s eyes filled with tears and said that she was Jewish and she would never let anyone tell her or make her feel she needed to “tone down” about the Holocaust. I spoke to the gentleman leading the ceremony. I praised him for his speech and for mentioning the words in the Declaration of Independence that define our nation and us as Americans. I said that I was disappointed that he didn’t say anything about 9/11. He replied that he thought about doing that but decided not to include it. I told him that it is very sad for our country that he felt it would be best to ignore this date. My friend and I left but not before telling both individuals that they need to find their voice as Americans and honor the innocent victims of 9/11.</i> My friend is an immigration attorney and she plans to write a letter to the district director. I will do the same. I don't know whether it will make any difference but I will do whatever I can to make sure that we NEVER FORGET. I posted this on another thread. But I think it is important.

This morning (9/11/09) my husband was sworn as a brand new American citizen. I have been to citizenship ceremonies a few times – including mine – and it is always a very emotional event for me. It always fills me with both pride and appreciation for this great country. Since today is 9/11, I – along with my family and friends – expected that it would be a special ceremony. That a few words would be said in honor of the victims of 9/11. To our shock neither of the two individuals in charge of the ceremony mentioned this important date in our history. Not one word.

At the end, my fellow rabble rouser friend and I went to speak to the individuals in charge of the ceremony. One was a lady. When my friend asked her why she didn’t say anything about 9/11. She replied she used to make a big deal about this day but four years ago she felt she needed it to “tone it down”. My friend’s eyes filled with tears and said that she was Jewish and she would never let anyone tell her or make her feel she needed to “tone down” about the Holocaust.

I spoke to the gentleman leading the ceremony. I praised him for his speech and for mentioning the words in the Declaration of Independence that define our nation and us as Americans. I said that I was disappointed that he didn’t say anything about 9/11. He replied that he thought about doing that but decided not to include it. I told him that it is very sad for our country that he felt it would be best to ignore this date. My friend and I left but not before telling both individuals that they need to find their voice as Americans and honor the innocent victims of 9/11.

My friend is an immigration attorney and she plans to write a letter to the district director. I will do the same. I don’t know whether it will make any difference but I will do whatever I can to make sure that we NEVER FORGET.

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