Comments on: $80 Million For Obama’s Fantasy Detainee Program

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Wed, 13 May 2009 16:04:19 +0000

Not sure the point of the “Wimp Left” thing … are we asserting somehow that it’s manly to detain people in an offshore military facility outside of US laws, but that it’s wimpy to process them in the American justice system and hold them in domestic prisons?

By: sinz54

sinz54 — Wed, 13 May 2009 13:54:03 +0000

From a Gallup Poll taken in January:

35% responded that Gitmo should be closed.
45% responded that it should not be closed.
20% had no opinion.

The breakdown by ideology shows that it's mostly liberals who want Gitmo to be closed. Not moderates, and certainly not conservatives.

http://tinyurl.com/7noume

So Obama closing Gitmo is simply a payoff to the Wimp Left, who want to fight terrorists according to the rules of chivalry. Nobody else needs this, or wants this.

By: krove

krove — Wed, 13 May 2009 13:23:11 +0000

More fear mongering for effect.

Bush detained hundreds of innocent rural farmers at Gitmo. Kids as young as 13 and old men of 90. Most were handed in for ransoms.

Of all the hundreds only two (2) have been tried and convicted after 7 years in torture camp.

Bush released hundreds after 5+ years in the Gulag and repatriated them. The whole process was chaotic and grossly unfair. Nothing new there, the whole Bush presidency was one of gross incompetence.

Yes there are a very few hard core terrorists there. Give them a fair trial and sentence them, if it's a death sentence then fine, however most of these have been tortured so to get a conviction is a moot point.

There are communities here in the USA willing and able to take these people. We have far more dangerous people here in prison. This is another false argument from the right. Bush wanted to close gitmo. McCain wanted to close gitmo.

Obama has put a year long review in place to sort out the total mess he was left regarding gimo. Paperwork was missing and chaotic.

What is your solution to this problem? Answer NONE

By: barker13

barker13 — Wed, 13 May 2009 12:06:36 +0000

"So where will the detainees go? Even Obama acknowledges many at Gitmo are hardened terrorists..."

You TRY them.

You CONVICT them.

And upon conviction...

You EXECUTE them!

Next question...???

"...17 Uighurs held at Gitmo..."

Are they TERRORISTS...??? That's the question. Are they terrorists in the sense of the accepted meaning of the term to the average American - you know... people who engage in "terror"... people who deliberately attack civilian targets in an effort to spread "terror"... people who don't wear uniforms, are not "official" members of a recognized signatory to the Geneva Conventions... are they the sort of people whom WE would consider terrorists if their actions were aimed at us?

If the answer is yes... turn them over to China.

If the answer is no... turn 'em over to Ban Ki-moon - make it the UN's problem.

BILL

By: balconesfault

balconesfault — Wed, 13 May 2009 11:38:09 +0000

Why is imprisoning those detainees who are considered a real threat if released not feasible? I know these are bad guys – but worse than Crips and Bloods locked up in prisons throughout California? Worse than narco gangsters in prison in Texas and Florida? Or for that matter – that Al Qaeda is really more threatening or violent than domestic gangs or drug syndacates? Too many conservatives are hanging their hat on selling the idea that Americans are inherently cowards. Not a great place to be.